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Then, under the system we have today, you still don’t have a right to view it. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s disingenuous to say there’s no option other t

by mprev 7y ago

Then, under the system we have today, you still don’t have a right to view it. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s disingenuous to say there’s no option other than going through unlicensed channels.

martin_a 7y ago
You obviously don't have a right to view it, that's correct. But publishers, studios, whatever you want to call them, don't get tired to tell us that users are not willing to pay for the content etc., but that's simply not true. Most often it's about the hurdles to access the content. Be it scattering over half a dozen platforms, restricted access to specific markets or whatever. They are the ones creating the problems that people find (more or less legal) solutions for.
antepodius 7y ago
Of course. But people's respect for customs and laws isn't infinite. They'll put some effort in, but they're less likely to if it's less convenient and doesn't really seem like a matter of great moral weight. I don't steal playstations out of shops, regardless of how fun it could be, because it's illegal and I'm likely to be punished for it, and because I have some moral qualms about it. Piracy? You're not going to be punished for it, and it's qualitatively different from taking a thing away from someone. With no enforcement, all that stops people from pirating all the time is the comparative inconvenience and moral qualms. When the entity involved is some big, faceless company, and it's a lot more convenient to pirate than buy (even disregarding the money you'd have to spend to buy!)- you could imagine not having any more moral qualms about piracy.
mprev 7y ago
To the people downvoting my comment above: your frustration at the system doesn't make my comment any less true. There isn't a natural right to consume content produced by companies who seem hell bent on making it difficult to access that content.
- fifnir 7y ago
  > There isn't a natural right to consume content produced by companies who seem hell bent on making it difficult to access that content. There's also no natural right for them to prohibit me from consuming, or to gouge me, or to push for horrible legislation with their unfair amount of influence.

by mprev 7y ago

martin_a 7y ago

You obviously don't have a right to view it, that's correct. But publishers, studios, whatever you want to call them, don't get tired to tell us that users are not willing to pay for the content etc., but that's simply not true. Most often it's about the hurdles to access the content. Be it scattering over half a dozen platforms, restricted access to specific markets or whatever. They are the ones creating the problems that people find (more or less legal) solutions for.

antepodius 7y ago

Of course. But people's respect for customs and laws isn't infinite. They'll put some effort in, but they're less likely to if it's less convenient and doesn't really seem like a matter of great moral weight. I don't steal playstations out of shops, regardless of how fun it could be, because it's illegal and I'm likely to be punished for it, and because I have some moral qualms about it. Piracy? You're not going to be punished for it, and it's qualitatively different from taking a thing away from someone. With no enforcement, all that stops people from pirating all the time is the comparative inconvenience and moral qualms. When the entity involved is some big, faceless company, and it's a lot more convenient to pirate than buy (even disregarding the money you'd have to spend to buy!)- you could imagine not having any more moral qualms about piracy.

mprev 7y ago

To the people downvoting my comment above: your frustration at the system doesn't make my comment any less true. There isn't a natural right to consume content produced by companies who seem hell bent on making it difficult to access that content.

fifnir 7y ago
> There isn't a natural right to consume content produced by companies who seem hell bent on making it difficult to access that content. There's also no natural right for them to prohibit me from consuming, or to gouge me, or to push for horrible legislation with their unfair amount of influence.