> The same is true on every OS, if you open a java app on macos it's not going to look right, do you blame apple for that or the developers of the app? I’d bla

> The same is true on every OS, if you open a java app on macos it's not going to look right, do you blame apple for that or the developers of the app? I’d blame the app, because in the case of OS X there is a single consistent set of UI components that effectively everything uses, and being gratuitously incompatible is on the app. In the case of Linux there is only a hodge-podge bazaar of gratuitously incompatible UI kits that every third app disagrees on which to use, so it’s hard to blame any single dev for the universally frustrating shitshow that results. As an aside, the only java app I’ve interacted with in years (seriously, how often do these even come up any more?), IntelliJ, actually sunk the effort into looking and feeling right. Like I said, it’s night and day on this stuff versus what I experience in Linux on the regular. > Will firefox respect it on macos? Yes. > It's not a good example anyway because firefox is not native, firefox is the electron of the 00's Electron apps also get this 100% right on OS X.