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The price to performance is crazy. If this had an extra ethernet port it would be the go-to router. What is really lacks is a easy power supply option. No barr
by steve19 7y ago
The price to performance is crazy. If this had an extra ethernet port it would be the go-to router.
What is really lacks is a easy power supply option. No barrel jack and it needs up to 20w so more than regular usb can supply. The breakout board, which I assume as a barrel jack, is not for sale on amazon yet.
I don't think antennas are included, and I don't know if they are absolutely required.
Edit: I don't see any sata or pci interfaces which is disappointing. Also the power breakout board has screw terminals not a barrel jack.
- CaptainJustin 7y agoOrdered four of these last week and planning on running them as a K8s cluster. You are correct about the power interface not being ideal. My current plan is to hook my cluster up to an old computer power supply. For those who are curious these things can draw around 4A at 5V.
- consp 7y agoWouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to run it from one PSU's 12v line and buy two (or four) 12/5v step down converters? 10A versions aren't even that expensive and the loss of running the PSU on only 20W will be huge (below 50% efficiency for sure).
- tyingq 7y agoMeanwell makes a relatively inexpensive, but nice, 5V 16A power supply that could run all four. $22 plus shipping. https://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/RS-100-5.shtml https://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/RS-100-5.shtml
- Fnoord 7y agoLess than half the price of an Asus Tinker board. Similar specs. 2 GB RAM isn't much though. If you want to run something like Splunk it won't work. My GPD Pocket 2 has 8 GB RAM. What kind of antennas are you referring to? Raspberry Pi with WLAN doesn't have any either. As for ethernet port you could probably use one via USB.
- henryackerman 7y agoAnything wireless will require an antenna. The Raspberry Pi has an antenna that's integrated in the PCB. It's rather interesting really. https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/pi-zero-w-wireless-antenna-design/ https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/pi-zero-w-wireless-antenna...
- steve19 7y agoThe Atomic Pi Amazon page spec list says antennas not included. That could well mean external antennas are not included (I can see there are connections for them) but there might be PCB antennas (copper tracks on the board itself that act as an antenna, like on a rpi or ESP8266).
- Tepix 7y agoIt's an attractive offer. The Pine64 RockPro64 (RK3399 based) may offer even more bang for the buck if you're ok with spending $60.
- nreilly 7y agoKeep in mind that all the Pine64 hardware has a 3 month warranty [1] that requires shipping the faulty device back. This made me very hesitant to buy any of their stuff. [1] https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=443 https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=443
- Already__Taken 7y agoNot sure if this applies as the country it's purchased from or purchased in. I thought if they take a payment from a european and ship to europe then this law applies https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/gua...
- stevespang 7y agoAll single board and accessories sold on the Pine Microsystems Inc. (PINE64) store are entitled to a 30 days Limited Warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. 30 days it says . . . .
- thinkmassive 7y ago"All single board and accessories sold on the Pine Microsystems Inc. (PINE64) store are entitled to a 30 days Limited Warranty against defects in materials and workmanship." I searched the linked page for "90" (days) and "3" (months) with no results, other than the "30 days" mentioned above. Where do you see 90-day warranty?
- rubyfan 7y agoYeah these boards are a pain to get certain apps working, for example retro games. GPU support also may not exist depending on the board.
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- A2017U1 7y agoDoes a router need that much compute? I've just moved and the walls here attenuate wifi signals dramatically. Was thinking about building my own router and bumping up the signal power. That or some sort of repeater.
- steve19 7y agoRouting gigabit with a stateful firewall does require a fair bit of computing power. But that is not going to solve your wifi signal problem. Use a mesh wifi setup to solve that one.
- A2017U1 7y agoThanks mate, been weighing up the options. Was not prepared for how bad it can be with thick rebar concrete walls. Only a few meters away from router and yet terrible signal. Far outside through a glass door has perfect signal. Ethernet over power and a mesh of AP's seems to be the best way.
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y agoYou might consider checking out r/homelab if you're considering something big- the community is really large and supportive.
- pizza234 7y agoIt depends on the functionality. A VPN router (although it's likely not your case) has a ceiling of 2 MBit/s on an RPi 3b (with a standard, single-threaded, OpenVPN configuration), which is relatively little.
- Tharre 7y agoThis can't be right. Granted, I've not been running OpenVPN lately, but with WireGuard I'm saturating the internal USB-ethernet adapter of the pi long before I'm running out of CPU power.
- jsight 7y agoI'm not sure why you would need anywhere near this level of CPU for a "go-to" router. Many of the ARM-based systems with gigabit and USB3 are perfectly suitable as routers.
- lpcvoid 7y agoBecause you maybe want something like pfsense to run with some filter rules, or you may want a long term VPN connection, which even with AES-NI Instructions still requires substantial CPU power for high speed connections.
- jsight 7y agoVPN is a good point. I don't think that I could get anywhere near 100Mbit with my Pi on OpenVPN, though in practice it is enough for what I need it for (access to home automation and maybe a couple of cameras).
- jjeaff 7y agoMany routers are hardware accelerated. So they don't need as much cpu
- jsight 7y agoI guess that is possible, but I think it is just as likely that people just overestimate the requirement. My Pi is practically idling while pushing ~100Mbit between the builtin Ethernet and an external dongle. Routing really doesn't take as much CPU as people think, even with a few rules for things like bandwidth monitoring on a per IP basis.