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"he flaw that you keep hitting is that you assume the government is just." The heck if I do. I'm saying that I personally support the system of voting to enac
by DanielBMarkham 16y ago
"he flaw that you keep hitting is that you assume the government is just."
The heck if I do.
I'm saying that I personally support the system of voting to enact change, that I believe the only arbitrer of whether something was justifiably held secret or not are my fellow voters, and that by denying us the right to participate in that agreed-upon state of affairs, it is a form of attack. It is not denied by keeping too many secrets -- secrets leak and we make choices. But it is, oddly enough, denied by dumping entire boatloads of secrets.
A just government has nothing to do with it.
- CWuestefeld 16y agoDaniel, I think this has been a very productive discussion. However, I believe the only arbitrer of whether something was justifiably held secret or not are my fellow voters How can this ever happen if we the voters are never given any view into what is being kept secret? We may as well vote on "should we continue black ops project X-123?". No voter can have any opinion on the question by its very nature. It seems like this is getting us into a Catch-22.
- DanielBMarkham 16y agoInstead of going deeper in this thread, I tried to wrap up and recap all of this in another article. Hope that is okay. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979866 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979866