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I honestly don't see why this is a problem. I use my straw, or my coffee cup, or whatever, and I throw it in a trash can. It's not going to hurt any marine mamm

I honestly don't see why this is a problem. I use my straw, or my coffee cup, or whatever, and I throw it in a trash can. It's not going to hurt any marine mammals unless you, the city government, go and dump it into the sea. So don't do that. If you can no longer put your trash on a barge to China, put it on a train instead and bury it somewhere in the enormous deserts that cover one third of the country. I don't want to hear about how every single square inch of the desert is infinitely precious and irreplaceable, either. When the US needed to test nuclear weapons, they took a chunk of desert they didn't care about and nuked it. Just take another chunk, and put garbage in it! Maybe use the same chunk, it's been 70 years, it's probably fine now. Anyway, leave me alone.

chapium 7y ago
The paper is compostable but the styrofoam cup or plastic lid is made from a limited resource.
defterGoose 7y ago
Nothing, whatever, could be wrong with me. The world must be as it is, logically. Why try to improve? And if you say we must, I'll question, flail, pout, and then call it unjust. Don't tell me it's my fault, for I just got here. I'll blame it on past people, maybe a peer. My life is just fine, and if others' are not, Well, life's just unfair, they deserve what they got! Do it for children, you'll say, and I'll sneer, How could I harm someone that isn't yet here? I cant be to blame for what their life might be. What have future generations e'er done for me? I'll mine all the minerals, cut down all the trees. Bespoil the air, then move on to the seas. What difference make it? I've earned what I've got, and nothing was given for which I've not fought. And isn't this precisely what Darwin taught? May the best man win, and take all of the pot! I'm captain, o captain of this ship called home. But I'm tired and hot now. Please, leave me alone.
- topmonk 7y ago
  The guy has a point, and all you do is dodge and shame. Landfills take a tiny portion of space in the US. Why are we so concerned?
  - khrbrt 7y ago
    Let's say we pick spots in the desert to store all our trash. How we do we move all the trash from the population centers to the landfill? Fleets of trucks and railcars which emit tons of CO2 and would be better used elsewhere in the economy. If we place landfills closer to population centers, then there is a much high opportunity cost for more productive uses for that land and greater care required for preparing the landfill so that contaminants don't leak into the water supply. Either way, it would be better to reduce landfill space as much as possible. More philosophically, we can't just keep living this "throw away lifestyle". There is a finite amount of land and resources. My generation is growing up facing a total climate collapse, and this way of thinking is the major reason why.

chapium 7y ago

The paper is compostable but the styrofoam cup or plastic lid is made from a limited resource.

defterGoose 7y ago

Nothing, whatever, could be wrong with me. The world must be as it is, logically. Why try to improve? And if you say we must, I'll question, flail, pout, and then call it unjust. Don't tell me it's my fault, for I just got here. I'll blame it on past people, maybe a peer. My life is just fine, and if others' are not, Well, life's just unfair, they deserve what they got! Do it for children, you'll say, and I'll sneer, How could I harm someone that isn't yet here? I cant be to blame for what their life might be. What have future generations e'er done for me? I'll mine all the minerals, cut down all the trees. Bespoil the air, then move on to the seas. What difference make it? I've earned what I've got, and nothing was given for which I've not fought. And isn't this precisely what Darwin taught? May the best man win, and take all of the pot! I'm captain, o captain of this ship called home. But I'm tired and hot now. Please, leave me alone.

topmonk 7y ago
The guy has a point, and all you do is dodge and shame. Landfills take a tiny portion of space in the US. Why are we so concerned?
- khrbrt 7y ago
  Let's say we pick spots in the desert to store all our trash. How we do we move all the trash from the population centers to the landfill? Fleets of trucks and railcars which emit tons of CO2 and would be better used elsewhere in the economy. If we place landfills closer to population centers, then there is a much high opportunity cost for more productive uses for that land and greater care required for preparing the landfill so that contaminants don't leak into the water supply. Either way, it would be better to reduce landfill space as much as possible. More philosophically, we can't just keep living this "throw away lifestyle". There is a finite amount of land and resources. My generation is growing up facing a total climate collapse, and this way of thinking is the major reason why.