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Which part of Silicon Valley do you think patio11 lives in? When, exactly, did he claim that "innovation" was some critical portion of his business models? On

Which part of Silicon Valley do you think patio11 lives in? When, exactly, did he claim that "innovation" was some critical portion of his business models? One of Patrick's most charming features is his unwillingness to tie himself up in emotional knots over his status as an "innovator", or fret about whether or not his products sufficiently express the essence of his cutting-edge twenty-first-century personality. He just makes things that people want, and markets them systematically with a great deal of focus. And he writes about that. My lawyer, my accountant, my dentist, my doctor, my grocer, and my pharmacist don't have particularly innovative business models. They just provide things that I want, and I pay for them. There is no sin in that.

mikepp 16y ago
"Tech/Silicon Valley". Didn't imply he lived in the Valley. "My lawyer, my accountant, my dentist, my doctor, my grocer, and my pharmacist don't have particularly innovative business models." This has nothing to do with his business model. It's about using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. I'm sure I'll get downvoted again, but I hate the blatant disregard for intellectual property. Twilio paid its $90-100K+ developer to program and document the appointment reminder script, and in the end, weren't credited for the crucial component of the work.
- patio11 16y ago
  I yield to no one in my respect for IP, and my karma would be higher if I didn't feel the need to pipe up so frequently on the "we should be able to steal music" topics. But I did not actually use Twilio's sample code for my product. It is sample code. Really. Go try running it, come back when you find that it doesn't even have enough for Rails to load. I didn't even use that code as a base for mine. Again, it is sample code. Take a look at the user experience or error handling -- they're clearly inadequate for a real product, but suffice to give a competent Rails developer a taste of what API it takes to actually have Twilio make a phone ring. After you can make a phone ring (in one line -- and, again, one line I don't even use), you only need the other 3,500 lines of AR to actually make that phone call worthwhile for business purposes.

mikepp 16y ago

"Tech/Silicon Valley". Didn't imply he lived in the Valley. "My lawyer, my accountant, my dentist, my doctor, my grocer, and my pharmacist don't have particularly innovative business models." This has nothing to do with his business model. It's about using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. I'm sure I'll get downvoted again, but I hate the blatant disregard for intellectual property. Twilio paid its $90-100K+ developer to program and document the appointment reminder script, and in the end, weren't credited for the crucial component of the work.

patio11 16y ago
I yield to no one in my respect for IP, and my karma would be higher if I didn't feel the need to pipe up so frequently on the "we should be able to steal music" topics. But I did not actually use Twilio's sample code for my product. It is sample code. Really. Go try running it, come back when you find that it doesn't even have enough for Rails to load. I didn't even use that code as a base for mine. Again, it is sample code. Take a look at the user experience or error handling -- they're clearly inadequate for a real product, but suffice to give a competent Rails developer a taste of what API it takes to actually have Twilio make a phone ring. After you can make a phone ring (in one line -- and, again, one line I don't even use), you only need the other 3,500 lines of AR to actually make that phone call worthwhile for business purposes.