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I cannot vote for the US government. I’m no US citizen.

by ugh 16y ago

DanielBMarkham 16y ago
Then you're not paying taxes or operating under U.S. laws. Ok. And your point is? If your point is that the U.S. is the de facto world government and you would like to do something to change it, then vote or otherwise go about your own citizenship duties to elect a government which will leak secrets, make deals, or otherwise act to change U.S. policy. But don't electronically come over here and spread all our state department cables all over the world. I'm sure your government has some sort of rule about attempting to destroy the functioning of a foreign government. If not, they're about to develop one. Sigh. I keep getting back to WL being the jerks that I mostly agree with who are going to screw things up for everybody. And you know the worst part of it? A bunch of folks will lionize them for it. We won't have as many freedoms because of their actions, but it'll be okay because we have heroes who stood up for the little guy. It's depressing, really.
- ugh 16y ago
  It looks like Wikileaks received all the cables from a US citizen who gave the cables to them of his or her own accord. They didn’t “come over”, they merely published what was given to them. I personally don’t feel like it is my or any foreigners responsibility to keep the secrets of the US government. It’s not as though Wikileaks stole them.
  - ChRoss 16y ago
    So if a robber give you the money they just robbed in other country, means you are free to use them?
    - ugh 16y ago
      Hm, that’s actually a good point. I’m unable to come to a solid conclusion right now. I will just point out that information and property are not the same and that even with property, taking stolen goods is usually a lesser crime, especially if you are otherwise unrelated to the thief. So while there are some similarities it’s not a perfect analogy.

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I cannot vote for the US government. I’m no US citizen.

by ugh 16y ago

I cannot vote for the US government. I’m no US citizen.

DanielBMarkham 16y ago
Then you're not paying taxes or operating under U.S. laws. Ok. And your point is? If your point is that the U.S. is the de facto world government and you would like to do something to change it, then vote or otherwise go about your own citizenship duties to elect a government which will leak secrets, make deals, or otherwise act to change U.S. policy. But don't electronically come over here and spread all our state department cables all over the world. I'm sure your government has some sort of rule about attempting to destroy the functioning of a foreign government. If not, they're about to develop one. Sigh. I keep getting back to WL being the jerks that I mostly agree with who are going to screw things up for everybody. And you know the worst part of it? A bunch of folks will lionize them for it. We won't have as many freedoms because of their actions, but it'll be okay because we have heroes who stood up for the little guy. It's depressing, really.
- ugh 16y ago
  It looks like Wikileaks received all the cables from a US citizen who gave the cables to them of his or her own accord. They didn’t “come over”, they merely published what was given to them. I personally don’t feel like it is my or any foreigners responsibility to keep the secrets of the US government. It’s not as though Wikileaks stole them.
  - ChRoss 16y ago
    So if a robber give you the money they just robbed in other country, means you are free to use them?
    - ugh 16y ago
      Hm, that’s actually a good point. I’m unable to come to a solid conclusion right now. I will just point out that information and property are not the same and that even with property, taking stolen goods is usually a lesser crime, especially if you are otherwise unrelated to the thief. So while there are some similarities it’s not a perfect analogy.