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>a run-down neighborhood with lots of broken windows will normalize behaviors that would be stigmatized elsewhere. Of course, but... >... as if replacing all
by jlawson 8y ago
>a run-down neighborhood with lots of broken windows will normalize behaviors that would be stigmatized elsewhere.
Of course, but...
>... as if replacing all the broken windows might somehow reduce crime. Of course this is pretty dumb
Calling it dumb seems to contradict the first quote above... If broken windows normalize bad behaviors, less broken windows would seem to prevent normalizing those behaviors.
>entrenched normalization of deviance (decades of bad/discriminatory policy) can’t simply be fixed by zealous application of punitive measures.
Why not? Punishing deviance prevents the normalization of deviance.
Curious, what would you think of broken windows policing as applied to high-crime white neighborhoods?
- cobbzilla 8y agoDid you read TFA? Do we ensure airplane safety through aggressive punishment of all minor offenses? Why not? Perhaps any real solution involves something more thoughtful than attacking obviously visible symptoms of the problem.
- Malician 8y agoNo contradiction. You can have one system, one small part of that system being no broken windows, where windows are commonly broken. You can have another system with unbroken windows. Repairing the windows and punishing people for breaking them won't magically transform the first system into the second. In fact, it might actually make things worse, depending on how it is implemented. For example, if it's already common to break windows in an area for a wide range of reasons and you start fining broke people money they can't pay and throwing them in jail... you haven't saved the windows, just caused a lot of damage.