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> Non-black Americans are not commonly accepted into this community, so when non-black Americans say the word it's considered very rude. Isn't it somewhat raci

by arkh 7y ago

> Non-black Americans are not commonly accepted into this community, so when non-black Americans say the word it's considered very rude. Isn't it somewhat racist?

freehunter 7y ago
I'm not entirely sure what "it" you're referring to. If you're saying that it's racist because only one race is allowed to say the word: No, I don't think so. It's not really a racial thing, it's a race and a culture. Not all black Americans say it, not all black Americans agree with it, and not all black Americans can get away with saying it. It's a kinship thing. My wife's female friends can say "you're such a bitch" but no one else would be able to say that to her. My coworkers and friends call me a nerd, but if someone I didn't know called me a nerd I would take it as an insult. They haven't earned that right. It's an offensive word unless there is a kinship developed where I know you're not saying it in a hurtful way. If you're saying it's deemed racist for non-black Americans to say the word, then yes. Saying it with an "a" would be deemed less racist and more of a very rude faux pax by many. Others may see it as very racist. Also depends on the context it's being said in.
- arkh 7y ago
  Specifically this part : "Non-black Americans are not commonly accepted into this community" Also the fact people keep writing "the n word", "the word but with an a" feels like communicating with children. Just write nigger or nigga and be done. The sky won't fall. You can't analyze or criticize something you can't name. Especially when forbidden words change every 10 to 15 years because people will just start using other common ones as insults. A simple example would be how "despite", "kings" and "queens" were used to mock black people (not just north-american one) on r/cringeanarchy (which ban must be why this was reposted).
  - freehunter 7y ago
    Some people aren't comfortable saying the word, I don't know if anything you can say would change that. The only purpose of the word, from my perspective, is to hurt someone else. You can say it all you want in whatever manner you want, but I won't because I know it can only hurt the people who hear it. All I was trying to do was to explain to a non-American how Americans view the word. The wrong person saying it to the right person could easily get that speaker killed, that's the power the word has in some communities. You can say it online all you want and you can argue that it doesn't have power, but there are many neighborhoods in America where saying it with an "a" or with an "r" will result in a murder that no witnesses will corroborate.

by arkh 7y ago

> Non-black Americans are not commonly accepted into this community, so when non-black Americans say the word it's considered very rude. Isn't it somewhat racist?

freehunter 7y ago

I'm not entirely sure what "it" you're referring to. If you're saying that it's racist because only one race is allowed to say the word: No, I don't think so. It's not really a racial thing, it's a race and a culture. Not all black Americans say it, not all black Americans agree with it, and not all black Americans can get away with saying it. It's a kinship thing. My wife's female friends can say "you're such a bitch" but no one else would be able to say that to her. My coworkers and friends call me a nerd, but if someone I didn't know called me a nerd I would take it as an insult. They haven't earned that right. It's an offensive word unless there is a kinship developed where I know you're not saying it in a hurtful way. If you're saying it's deemed racist for non-black Americans to say the word, then yes. Saying it with an "a" would be deemed less racist and more of a very rude faux pax by many. Others may see it as very racist. Also depends on the context it's being said in.

arkh 7y ago
Specifically this part : "Non-black Americans are not commonly accepted into this community" Also the fact people keep writing "the n word", "the word but with an a" feels like communicating with children. Just write nigger or nigga and be done. The sky won't fall. You can't analyze or criticize something you can't name. Especially when forbidden words change every 10 to 15 years because people will just start using other common ones as insults. A simple example would be how "despite", "kings" and "queens" were used to mock black people (not just north-american one) on r/cringeanarchy (which ban must be why this was reposted).
- freehunter 7y ago
  Some people aren't comfortable saying the word, I don't know if anything you can say would change that. The only purpose of the word, from my perspective, is to hurt someone else. You can say it all you want in whatever manner you want, but I won't because I know it can only hurt the people who hear it. All I was trying to do was to explain to a non-American how Americans view the word. The wrong person saying it to the right person could easily get that speaker killed, that's the power the word has in some communities. You can say it online all you want and you can argue that it doesn't have power, but there are many neighborhoods in America where saying it with an "a" or with an "r" will result in a murder that no witnesses will corroborate.