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If you look at the history of China, many times entire governments have been overthrown by a peasant revolt. China is sort of unique in that, other than the Fre
by devoply 7y ago
If you look at the history of China, many times entire governments have been overthrown by a peasant revolt. China is sort of unique in that, other than the French. So to the Chinese: Viva la revolution. Down with Communist Party!
So to answer your question, that's why they are scared and should be the Chinese people have the ability to get rid of the fascist totalitarians running their country -- they have done so multiple times in the past.
- lixtra 7y agoDidn’t one of those revolutions kill 20 million people? So to the Chinese: stand firm to improve your lot but do it carefully.
- devoply 7y agoWW2 killed 55 million people. What's your point? Yes there are costs to liberty and freedom.
- lixtra 7y agoMy point is that you should ignore advise from people that shrug of millions of dead. Of course you can finally come to the conclusion that the cause is worth the price. But considering the cost it should be carefully weighted.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoThe original comment didn't shrug off anything. It didn't even mention the implied cost of overthrowing a government.
- usrnm 7y agoI hate being the devil's advocate, but you know the word "fascist" has an actual meaning, don't you? I'm not trying to defend the Chinese government, but calling them "fascist" is just wrong
- OneWordSoln 7y agoThe Chinese govt's oppression of Christians, Falun Gong and Muslims is ABSOLUTELY fascist.
- devoply 7y agoWhich element does not fit: The primacy of the group. Supporting the group feels more important than maintaining either individual or universal rights. Believing that one's group is a victim. This justifies any behavior against the group's enemies. The belief that individualism and liberalism enable dangerous decadence and have a negative effect on the group. A strong sense of community or brotherhood. This brotherhood's "unity and purity are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary." Individual self-esteem is tied up in the grandeur of the group. Paxton called this an "enhanced sense of identity and belonging." Extreme support of a "natural" leader, who is always male. This results in one man taking on the role of national savior. "The beauty of violence and of will, when they are devoted to the group's success in a Darwinian struggle," Paxton wrote. The idea of a naturally superior group or, especially in Hitler's case, biological racism, fits into a fascist interpretation of Darwinism.
- shkkmo 7y agoIn what way do you think China is not fascist? To me China seems to fit the definition of facism to a T.
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y agoIn the way that they're communist? Extreme communism and extreme fascism have an awful lot in common.
- taobility 7y agoin which way US is not fascist?
- robdachshund 7y agoOne could argue that they are economically fascist. Semi free market with industries that answer to the state.
- dang 7y agoPlease keep the historical information bits of your comments to HN and drop the political battle bits (e.g. "fascist totalitarians"). You don't have to change your politics to post here, but they should not be the high-order element—because when that happens, curiosity is vaporized, and this place exists for curiosity. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Also, definitional flamewars about the word "fascism", which we're getting below, are useless, boring, and always escalate to worse.