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This study (if you could call it that) has already been shown to be heavily biased and misleading. Here’s an article with comments from Norwegian fact checking
by audunw 8y ago
This study (if you could call it that) has already been shown to be heavily biased and misleading.
Here’s an article with comments from Norwegian fact checking site: https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/NKl/forskere-mener-tysk-elbil-rapport-er-uvitenskapelig-og-grovt-villedende https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/NKl/forskere-mener-tysk-elbi...
One flaw is that it does not account for energy used and emissions related to extraction of oil and production and distribution of diesel.
Another flaw is that the estimate for CO2 emissions in the production of the battery makes assumptions that we know are false in the case of Tesla.
But the whole premise is also bogus. The point of EVs isn’t to cut a few percent of CO2 emissions. It’s to build towards a future where we cut ALL emissions. And it’s the only technology (possible alongside fuel cell tech, which is a branch of EVs as far as I’m concerned) that can plausibly do that for the land transportation sector. Sure you need to clean up production emissions and the grid too. But that’s problems we have to solve anyway, and are improving on every year.
We can’t just go toward whatever leads to the most CO2 decreases at a given time. We need a long term plan that actually builds towards cutting all emissions. Studies like this completely miss this point, and so does people thinking their hybrid or EV is personally saving the planet for that matter.. but hey they help drive investments that actually matter so they help even if they miss the point
- MuffinFlavored 8y ago> One flaw is that it does not account for energy used and emissions related to extraction of oil and production and distribution of diesel. If you wanted to go that far, you'd need to account for all of the fuel used in transporting Tesla parts, right?
- village-idiot 8y agoYes. This is a standard form of emissions measurement called “wheel to wheel” measurement. It includes the cost of making the raw material, transport, manufacturing, and fuel production. But the trick is that the frame of an EV really isn’t all that different than the frame of an ICE vehicle from an emissions standpoint. So all that you really need to measure is the difference in drivetrain production and operation.
- MuffinFlavored 8y agoand when that "wheel to wheel" measurement is made given the similarities and differences you called out, is a Tesla that much better for the environment than say... a 40mpg sedan?
- village-idiot 8y agoDepends on power generation, and it therefore depends on the state. In a place like Kentucky or Alabama that uses a lot of coal it will be close. In a place like California or Iowa the EV will win hands down.
- chewz 8y ago> We need a long term plan that actually builds towards cutting all emissions. The plan is very simple. Get rid of cars, any cars EV or not. Use bikes and public transport.