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Well, we can all agree that the word "love" is overloaded. With my parents and my kids.. my love is truly unconditional. No matter what they do or say, I will
by ArtDev 7y ago
Well, we can all agree that the word "love" is overloaded.
With my parents and my kids.. my love is truly unconditional.
No matter what they do or say, I will always love them.
Unconditional love has no place in romantic love. They shouldn't even be sharing the same words.
Romantic love is absurdly conditional. We need a different word. The word "lust" is also a temporary state, even with new couples.
Music, romantic movies and shows like "The Bachelor", have warped our cultural ideas around relationships.
However, sometimes media can explain it perfectly:
"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people calls 'love' is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on science."
- lurquer 7y agoI used to think that. Until I met my true love. Hope you get to experience it some day. 23+ years of embarrassingly romantic, lustful, sacrificial, unconditional straight-out-of-a-Shakespearean-sonnet divine true love. There is such a thing. Rare. But it does exist.
- tokenpreneur 7y agoIt's not unconditional if it's also lustful.
- lurquer 7y agoHa. I'll leave it to you to parse adjectives. All I'm saying to the delightfully Spock-ian logical HN poster is that all the cynicsm and scientific Mumbo-jumbo about endorphines and the like vanish upon laying eyes on your soul-mate. I could never convince you of true love. I don't mean to even try. I hope you have the distinct pleasure and privilege of discovering it for yourself.
- tokenpreneur 7y agoThe GP was making a distinction regarding the application of the quality of unconditional to romantic love. At the minimum, if there's lust involved, it's by definition not unconditional. You snarkily leave me to parsing adjectives all the while triumphing your definition of true love over others. One can accept the notion of 'true (romantic) love' but pretending its unconditional is lying about facts. I'd also argue that even parental love and the love for the offspring is not unconditional either: you love them because they are your parents, or your children. We can participate in the varieties of the human experience, but let's not lose sight of the truth or muddle the meaning of words. I'm of the opinion that completely unconditional love can only occur in relation to an other from whom one stands to gain absolutely nothing.
- mistermann 7y ago> If there's lust involved, it's by definition not unconditional Can you elaborate on this?
- tokenpreneur 7y agoLust is conditioned by pleasurable sensory inputs and the prospect (or consummation, if you're lucky) of the sexual encounter.
- mistermann 7y agoRight, but how is that necessarily a condition (pre-requisite) for love?
- tokenpreneur 7y agoYou can't call a (romantic) love unconditional, if there's lust involved. The lust conditions the (romantic) love. This is not the same as saying lust is a necessary condition for love (but is usually a factor in romantic love), which I have not said nor implied.
- noonespecial 7y agoHe forgot to mention paradoxical. Which it so is.
- lichtenberger 7y agoHa, Rick and Morty, best show ever ;-)
- toyg 7y agoIf Dan Harmon had known that R&M would be misquoted out of context so much... he would have probably written it anyway, because it made him a millionaire and fuck poor people trying to make you feel guilty, but regardless -- he's on record multiple times saying how he's baffled that people take Rick as a model when it's patently clear that he's an antisocial psycho who will never find happiness (see for example "Auto Erotic Assimilation"), borne out of Harmon's worse instincts. For the record, Harmon is currently engaged and will probably marry (for the second time) pretty soon.
- majos 7y agoAs a fan of the show -- seems like many people love Rick because it's very flattering to reason that you're alone (or misanthropic, whatever) and depressed because you're so much smarter than everyone around you.