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The analogy to this is saying, “if you don’t like climate change, just stop using fossil fuels”. Great as far as it goes, but the problem still exists beyond th
by GreeniFi 7y ago
The analogy to this is saying, “if you don’t like climate change, just stop using fossil fuels”. Great as far as it goes, but the problem still exists beyond the bubble of my own consumer preference. We’re moving towards big FB regulation in Europe - I hope - which would set a precedent for it globally. Although my choice would be the Chinese solution...
- 0x445442 7y agoChoosing not to use Facebook is in no way analogous to choosing not to use gasoline or electricity.
- GreeniFi 7y agoIt’s analogous in that the problems associated with its use don’t disappear if only you stop using it.
- ddingus 7y agoThat is what advocacy is for. I stopped using it based on advocacy by others. You can too.
- itronitron 7y agoyou can stop using Facebook, but Facebook is still using you by way of its trackers on company websites.
- ddingus 7y agoSo? Let them. In fact, let them continue to escalate all that means. It is all on a path to greater regulation. And, once it gets there, I will very gladly point out they got what they deserve.
- tsukikage 7y ago...so we actually agree with OP's premise that they should be regulated?
- ddingus 7y agoTotally.
- JohnFen 7y ago> Let them No. I'm not going to do nothing while people hit me in the face just because the law might, at some point, give them what they deserve for it. I'm going to do what I can to make the face-punching stop first.
- ddingus 7y agoSuch as?
- JohnFen 7y agoYour question underlines the problem. I don't use these services, and put up as many security barriers against the data collection they engage in as I can, through the use of VPNs, firewalls, avoiding the execution of Javascript, etc. But I can't stop everything. Even so, I'm going to stop as much as I can. I refuse to just lay down and surrender.
- ddingus 7y agoGreat! I do similar things. In my view, it all counts. Surround the problem.
- eswat 7y agoMaybe not but Facebook could be looked at as a resource to fulfill or strengthen a basic human need: human connection (like electricity can fulfill or strengthen climate control so we can survive harsher weather).
- onefuncman 7y agoThe Chinese solution of nationalizing social media...? Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
- GreeniFi 7y agoOh no. I meant kicking FB out altogether. Anyway, we already have a form of social credit in the West. It’s called your credit score, and you can’t buy a house without being a good boy.
- vaylian 7y ago"a form", yes. But it is a very superficial similarity. As long as you have enough money and as along as you pay people on time, no one will care about what else you do with your life. The social credit score in China is based on state-sponsored gamification and the latest psychological insights. This takes things to a completely different level.
- FullyFunctional 7y agoSure you can -- if you can pay in cash
- firethief 7y ago> the problem still exists beyond the bubble of my own consumer preference Rain isn't very wet: it's only tiny drops
- JohnFen 7y agoPlus, it doesn't even solve the problem within your own bubble.