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We do get to say that some perspectives are right and some are wrong. Humans are moral agents, we have that ability. And those are wrong.
by sagichmal 7y ago
We do get to say that some perspectives are right and some are wrong. Humans are moral agents, we have that ability. And those are wrong.
- matz1 7y agoYes human are moral agents and at the same time every human are different. What one called "wrong" might not be wrong for other.
- freehunter 7y agoFor example, Ted Bundy thought that murdering people was not wrong. We need to respect his morals and allow him to murder freely, because every human has different morals and although the murder victim thinks it's "wrong", we need to respect the opinion of the murderer too.
- matz1 7y agoNo, depends on your morality. If you thought murder was not wrong than it make sense to respect and follow Ted Bundy but if you thought that murder is wrong, its more sense for you to do the opposite.
- sagichmal 7y agoI don't care about what murderers or white supremacists think. Their morality is wrong, and they don't deserve a seat at society's table.
- matz1 7y agoLikewise murderer or white supermacis can say the same thing, that they don't care what you think, your morality is wrong and you don't deserve a seat at society's table
- sagichmal 7y agoYes, and one of us is right, and another one of us is wrong. That's fine.
- matz1 7y agoSo how do you define right or wrong ?
- sagichmal 7y ago> So how do you define right or wrong ? Easily: what is right improves the human condition and reduces suffering. What is wrong does the opposite. Let me short-circuit your next question, which is surely "how do you measure what improves the human condition, and what is suffering?" We have to use our judgment, which we are graced with by virtue of being moral agents. This is subjective, like anything worth doing, which means we sometimes get it wrong. And that's fine. The fact that we sometimes imprison innocent people doesn't invalidate wholesale the concept of a system of justice.
- matz1 7y agoSo we agree that it is subjective.
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- hackinthebochs 7y agoYou can say everything you need to say about white surpremacists without having to resort to "we're right and they're wrong". I don't see what shrouding your preferred state of affairs in objective language gets, other than the potential for cognitive dissonance.
- maximus1983 7y agohttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4055162/Killing-hatred-kindness-Black-man-convinced-200-racists-abandon-KKK-making-friends-despite-prejudiced-views.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4055162/Killing-hat... If you don't allow them to be part of the world you end up alienating them forever and they can never redeem themselves and change. Society has forgotten how to forgive.