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> And it turns out that yes, voat and gab.ai are both filled with the utter dregs of society What does this say about the validity of the questionable study li

> And it turns out that yes, voat and gab.ai are both filled with the utter dregs of society What does this say about the validity of the questionable study linked here that applauds "deplatforming" and only examines a few short-time consequences? Great success, sending more people from reddit to their own hate platform that will grow and exploit synergies among groups of particularly toxic people.

bootlooped 8y ago
If you look at the number of upvotes and comments on any given post on voat.co, it's clear that very few people are actually using it. If deplatforming drove >50% of affected users there it would be troubling; my guess is that it's <5% though.
ThrowawayR2 8y ago
> Great success, sending more people from reddit to their own hate platform that will grow and exploit synergies among groups of particularly toxic people. Fox News seems like a rather good analogue of this. Despite promulgating information and opinions considered false and unacceptable by many, they are quite successful both financially and at exerting political influence. Shaming and shunning them and their viewers only hardens their viewership's belief in the truth of what they say. By shunting the "basket of deplorables" off to Voat/Gab, we might be inadvertently creating the next Fox News.
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  The difference being that fox was never marginalized, it's always been mainstream.
olefoo 8y ago
That we can identify potential school shooters, identity terrorists and other bad actors from their network traffic. If Joe Bloke suddenly starts tunneling a lot of crap to 8chan... might be time for the constable to drop by for tea and persuasion.
- whenchamenia 8y ago
  Thats really worrying that guilt by association and thoughtceome is still a thing. Isnt that just a more powerful soft censorship tool?
- amiga-workbench 8y ago
  You're going to end up with a shit signal to noise ratio for the people who visit the site for the automotive, origami and cooking boards.
apasserby 8y ago
Thoughtful and intellectual conversations require good moderation, this is hardly a new concept.

bootlooped 8y ago

If you look at the number of upvotes and comments on any given post on voat.co, it's clear that very few people are actually using it. If deplatforming drove >50% of affected users there it would be troubling; my guess is that it's <5% though.

ThrowawayR2 8y ago

> Great success, sending more people from reddit to their own hate platform that will grow and exploit synergies among groups of particularly toxic people. Fox News seems like a rather good analogue of this. Despite promulgating information and opinions considered false and unacceptable by many, they are quite successful both financially and at exerting political influence. Shaming and shunning them and their viewers only hardens their viewership's belief in the truth of what they say. By shunting the "basket of deplorables" off to Voat/Gab, we might be inadvertently creating the next Fox News.

joshuamorton 8y ago
The difference being that fox was never marginalized, it's always been mainstream.

olefoo 8y ago

That we can identify potential school shooters, identity terrorists and other bad actors from their network traffic. If Joe Bloke suddenly starts tunneling a lot of crap to 8chan... might be time for the constable to drop by for tea and persuasion.

whenchamenia 8y ago
Thats really worrying that guilt by association and thoughtceome is still a thing. Isnt that just a more powerful soft censorship tool?
amiga-workbench 8y ago
You're going to end up with a shit signal to noise ratio for the people who visit the site for the automotive, origami and cooking boards.

apasserby 8y ago

Thoughtful and intellectual conversations require good moderation, this is hardly a new concept.