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My favorite: T63.012D: Toxic effect of rattlesnake venom, intentional self-harm, subsequent encounter So basically you have a case where someone not only inten

My favorite: T63.012D: Toxic effect of rattlesnake venom, intentional self-harm, subsequent encounter So basically you have a case where someone not only intentionally wanted to harm themselves with rattlesnake venom once, but at least twice!

doomrobo 8y ago
Like cutting near the bite and trying to suck out blood?
- ethbro 8y ago
  Why would I suck blood out of a venomous snake? :3
  - watersb 8y ago
    At least it isn't poisonous.
diggan 8y ago
Some people (actually, just heard of one) inject themselves with snake poison for various benefits. This guy has been doing it for 30 years now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbqB0pFRPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbqB0pFRPA And also a longer but older documentary-short about the same person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_m-rDUNw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_m-rDUNw0 Edit: Apparently, the same guy (Steve Ludwin) actually has his own snake show on VICE nowadays. You can see all videos about him (and ton of snakes) here: https://video.vice.com/en_uk/topic/steve-ludwin https://video.vice.com/en_uk/topic/steve-ludwin
ebg13 8y ago
> So basically you have a case where someone not only intentionally wanted to harm themselves with rattlesnake venom once, but at least twice! No, you misunderstand the terminology. "Subsequent encounter" means with the doctor not with the rattlesnake. AKA followup care during or after recovery.
- westurner 8y ago
  > No, you misunderstand the terminology. "Subsequent encounter" means with the doctor not with the rattlesnake You can reference ICD codes with the schema.org/code property of schema.org/MedicalEntity and subclasses. https://schema.org/docs/meddocs.html https://schema.org/docs/meddocs.html "Subsequent encounter" is poorly defined. IMHO, there should be a code for this.
  - ebg13 8y ago
    > "Subsequent encounter" is poorly defined. "Poorly defined" is poorly defined. Explanations of when to use the D make perfect sense to me. "The 7th character for “subsequent encounter” is to be used for all encounters after the patient has received active treatment of the condition and is receiving routine care for the condition during the healing or recovery phase. Examples of subsequent encounters include cast change or removal, x-ray to check healing status of a fracture, removal of external or internal fixation device, medication adjustments, and other aftercare and follow-up visits following active treatment of the injury or condition. Encounters for rehabilitation, such as physical and occupational therapy, are another example of the use of the “subsequent encounter” 7th character. For aftercare following an injury, the acute injury code should be assigned with the 7th character for subsequent encounter."

doomrobo 8y ago

Like cutting near the bite and trying to suck out blood?

ethbro 8y ago
Why would I suck blood out of a venomous snake? :3
- watersb 8y ago
  At least it isn't poisonous.

diggan 8y ago

Some people (actually, just heard of one) inject themselves with snake poison for various benefits. This guy has been doing it for 30 years now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbqB0pFRPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbqB0pFRPA And also a longer but older documentary-short about the same person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_m-rDUNw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_m-rDUNw0 Edit: Apparently, the same guy (Steve Ludwin) actually has his own snake show on VICE nowadays. You can see all videos about him (and ton of snakes) here: https://video.vice.com/en_uk/topic/steve-ludwin https://video.vice.com/en_uk/topic/steve-ludwin

ebg13 8y ago

> So basically you have a case where someone not only intentionally wanted to harm themselves with rattlesnake venom once, but at least twice! No, you misunderstand the terminology. "Subsequent encounter" means with the doctor not with the rattlesnake. AKA followup care during or after recovery.

westurner 8y ago
> No, you misunderstand the terminology. "Subsequent encounter" means with the doctor not with the rattlesnake You can reference ICD codes with the schema.org/code property of schema.org/MedicalEntity and subclasses. https://schema.org/docs/meddocs.html https://schema.org/docs/meddocs.html "Subsequent encounter" is poorly defined. IMHO, there should be a code for this.
- ebg13 8y ago
  > "Subsequent encounter" is poorly defined. "Poorly defined" is poorly defined. Explanations of when to use the D make perfect sense to me. "The 7th character for “subsequent encounter” is to be used for all encounters after the patient has received active treatment of the condition and is receiving routine care for the condition during the healing or recovery phase. Examples of subsequent encounters include cast change or removal, x-ray to check healing status of a fracture, removal of external or internal fixation device, medication adjustments, and other aftercare and follow-up visits following active treatment of the injury or condition. Encounters for rehabilitation, such as physical and occupational therapy, are another example of the use of the “subsequent encounter” 7th character. For aftercare following an injury, the acute injury code should be assigned with the 7th character for subsequent encounter."