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This is an entirely fair point—there's a fair amount of brain drain that can be attributed to "I don't want to live in a red state." The LGBT thing is anecdota

by geofft 8y ago

This is an entirely fair point—there's a fair amount of brain drain that can be attributed to "I don't want to live in a red state." The LGBT thing is anecdotally true in my experience, and in particular, leaving your home state for college is a good socially-acceptable excuse to leave your home state and meet others you suspect are like you at exactly the same time that you're no longer a minor under your parents' control.

lotsofpulp 8y ago
Sick leave, parental leave, legal marijuana, assisted suicide, non compete bans, better environmental protections, pro choice, are all desirable to the young people I know and red states go the other way on those policies.
- refurb 8y ago
  Huh! The fastest growing states in 2018 were: Nevada, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Florida and Washington.[1] [1]https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-national-state.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimate...
  - ikeyany 8y ago
    My theories: ID/UT/AZ -> Lower/middle class people can no longer afford to live comfortably in California FL/WA -> People are getting sick of the progressively longer, shittier winters in the midwest/northeast
  - wyldfire 8y ago
    Population changes are due to more than just migration. Birth and death rates are also significant factors.
  - SantalBlush 8y ago
    That's percentage growth, not numeric growth. So while their population increase was largely due to national migration, those migration numbers didn't need to be very high because they don't have huge populations (except Florida).
    - sethhochberg 8y ago
      Even in FL, anecdotally I know many people who moved there from CA or CO or NY not because they disliked the place they came from, but because they were forced out by influxes of _other_ people who made more money, drove cost of living up, etc. The sentiment is basically "Florida isn't as nice, but its cheap, so we make do because we have to." The brain drain from much of the rest of the country into a few small metro areas is forcing lots of middle-income people from those areas to migrate to cheaper places, and this would seemingly skew the numbers when you're looking at overall population migration.
- throwaway441 8y ago
  > pro choice [...] are all desirable to the young people I know Interestingly, unlike the other issues you've listed, pro-choice support does not vary a whole lot by age. 63% support from 18-29, 59% for 30-59, and about 57% for everyone older than that (https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-aborti...) Whatever causes the difference on that issue is not due to age.

by geofft 8y ago

lotsofpulp 8y ago

Sick leave, parental leave, legal marijuana, assisted suicide, non compete bans, better environmental protections, pro choice, are all desirable to the young people I know and red states go the other way on those policies.

refurb 8y ago
Huh! The fastest growing states in 2018 were: Nevada, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Florida and Washington.[1] [1]https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-national-state.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimate...
- ikeyany 8y ago
  My theories: ID/UT/AZ -> Lower/middle class people can no longer afford to live comfortably in California FL/WA -> People are getting sick of the progressively longer, shittier winters in the midwest/northeast
- wyldfire 8y ago
  Population changes are due to more than just migration. Birth and death rates are also significant factors.
- SantalBlush 8y ago
  That's percentage growth, not numeric growth. So while their population increase was largely due to national migration, those migration numbers didn't need to be very high because they don't have huge populations (except Florida).
  - sethhochberg 8y ago
    Even in FL, anecdotally I know many people who moved there from CA or CO or NY not because they disliked the place they came from, but because they were forced out by influxes of _other_ people who made more money, drove cost of living up, etc. The sentiment is basically "Florida isn't as nice, but its cheap, so we make do because we have to." The brain drain from much of the rest of the country into a few small metro areas is forcing lots of middle-income people from those areas to migrate to cheaper places, and this would seemingly skew the numbers when you're looking at overall population migration.
throwaway441 8y ago
> pro choice [...] are all desirable to the young people I know Interestingly, unlike the other issues you've listed, pro-choice support does not vary a whole lot by age. 63% support from 18-29, 59% for 30-59, and about 57% for everyone older than that (https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-aborti...) Whatever causes the difference on that issue is not due to age.