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I'm sure the parents want the kids getting out of brain-drain regions too. Why ought kids stay?

burfog 8y ago
Some may. I certainly don't agree. Those "brain-drain regions" are the places where kids can afford to raise grandkids. Aside from weather, they are generally nicer places to live.
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- gshdg 8y ago
  Only if there are well paying jobs there for their skills. And if they’re satisfied with the school systems. And different people have different ideas of what a “nice” place is to live.
- solveit 8y ago
  Young people certainly know this. And they're making the free, informed decision to forego raising children in return for living somewhere where they can both maximize their career potential and socialize with people more compatible with themselves.
sonnyblarney 8y ago
By that logic, we should all be aspiring to live in Upper E. side Manhatten, because, 'why stay anywhere else'. Education is only one factor, there are many others. FYI - 'Worker mobility' in the US is actually declining, and has been for some time. This could possibly mean that regular workers are moving around less, relative to educated one's. It also could mean as communications and transportation become easier, the 'big city' advantages are just compounding. So the major metro areas are just sucking up everything around them. Texas, Colorado, Illinois have a sea of purple around them.
- threatofrain 8y ago
  So why should kids with the opportunity to leave choose to stay?
  - 2bitencryption 8y ago
    family? friends? sense of belonging? I'm not saying that applies to everyone. I was "brain-drained" despite those things. But I know others who couldn't just pick up their lives for a job on the other side of the country.
  - sonnyblarney 8y ago
    I'm a little shocked at the proposition. The notion that 'you could feasibly make more money elsewhere, and therefore should leave' is not obvious to me, or I think to most people. Chicago may have more opportunity than Michigan overall, but that doesn't mean there are not great opportunities in Michigan. But that's within the context of your imperative. The real answer is that for most people, their job is not the defining artifact of their life, it's a means to support their families, and maybe give them an opportunity to engage with their communities, have hobbies, friends. I think for young people, in their 20's the notion is a little big different, because moving is exploring and liberating in some ways, but that's only one phase of life.
    - vkou 8y ago
      > but that doesn't mean there are not great opportunities in Michigan. Just because there are some great opportunities in Michigan does not mean there are enough great opportunities in Michigan for everyone who could find one in Chicago, SF, or Seattle, or NYC.
      - sonnyblarney 8y ago
        Again, for most people, life is not about some 'job opportunity'.
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Some may. I certainly don't agree. Those "brain-drain regions" are the places where kids can afford to raise grandkids. Aside from weather, they are generally nicer places to live.

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gshdg 8y ago
Only if there are well paying jobs there for their skills. And if they’re satisfied with the school systems. And different people have different ideas of what a “nice” place is to live.
solveit 8y ago
Young people certainly know this. And they're making the free, informed decision to forego raising children in return for living somewhere where they can both maximize their career potential and socialize with people more compatible with themselves.

sonnyblarney 8y ago

By that logic, we should all be aspiring to live in Upper E. side Manhatten, because, 'why stay anywhere else'. Education is only one factor, there are many others. FYI - 'Worker mobility' in the US is actually declining, and has been for some time. This could possibly mean that regular workers are moving around less, relative to educated one's. It also could mean as communications and transportation become easier, the 'big city' advantages are just compounding. So the major metro areas are just sucking up everything around them. Texas, Colorado, Illinois have a sea of purple around them.

threatofrain 8y ago
So why should kids with the opportunity to leave choose to stay?
- 2bitencryption 8y ago
  family? friends? sense of belonging? I'm not saying that applies to everyone. I was "brain-drained" despite those things. But I know others who couldn't just pick up their lives for a job on the other side of the country.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  I'm a little shocked at the proposition. The notion that 'you could feasibly make more money elsewhere, and therefore should leave' is not obvious to me, or I think to most people. Chicago may have more opportunity than Michigan overall, but that doesn't mean there are not great opportunities in Michigan. But that's within the context of your imperative. The real answer is that for most people, their job is not the defining artifact of their life, it's a means to support their families, and maybe give them an opportunity to engage with their communities, have hobbies, friends. I think for young people, in their 20's the notion is a little big different, because moving is exploring and liberating in some ways, but that's only one phase of life.
  - vkou 8y ago
    > but that doesn't mean there are not great opportunities in Michigan. Just because there are some great opportunities in Michigan does not mean there are enough great opportunities in Michigan for everyone who could find one in Chicago, SF, or Seattle, or NYC.
    - sonnyblarney 8y ago
      Again, for most people, life is not about some 'job opportunity'.
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