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Have you ever bought a new iPhone? Have you ever dropped your phone and needed a repair? The chance of both of those is correlated to how much time you spend

by ada1981 8y ago

Have you ever bought a new iPhone? Have you ever dropped your phone and needed a repair? The chance of both of those is correlated to how much time you spend on your device. And of course, your particular use case isn’t driving apples decisions — it’s the aggregate behavior of all its users. So while you may not buy more apps or services, it is certainly the case that increases in phone use correlate to increases in Apple Eco System generated revenue for Apple.

scarface74 8y ago
Really? That’s the road you’re going down? Apple wants you to use your phone more to increase the likelihood that you will drop it? And you still haven’t answered the other question. How are these third party apps better at controlling usage than Apple’s built in screen time and parental controls?
- ada1981 8y ago
  Your question was how does increased usage increase revenue. Repairs are a non-trivial source of revenue and increased usage certainly increases repairs. But more important are the other examples I gave which you have ignored. I don’t know how they are better personally, but the author of the article (did you read it?) certain pointed out some examples. As far as I can tell, your argument is that user phone usage has zero impact on apples revenue, I’m making the opposite case. My sense is that phone usage is correlated with revenue.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Yes I did read the entire article. Neither you nor the article (detail light) listed anyway that the third party apps were better than iOS built in features. Until you do, I think it’s safe to say that your unsubstantiated opinions are just that. Again, can you cite any feature that the third party apps have that Apple didn’t either include recently in the screen time feature or the parental controls that have been there forever?
    - ada1981 8y ago
      Maybe you didn’t read the whole thing? Or maybe you are just trolling here? It’s unclear. >> Unlike apps such as OurPact, Apple’s tools don’t allow parents to schedule different times throughout a day when an app is blocked — for school or family dinner. And Apple’s tool blocks adult content only on its Safari web browser and some apps, not on other browsers or many popular apps, like Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. << So, in case you missed it, here is what they are saying: 1) ability to set a schedule for blocking apps through out the day. 2) blocking content outside of Safari (in other apps / browsers / etc).
      - scarface74 8y ago
        Well let’s see where to start... If you set parental limits in settings. Those limits are supported by Chrome. But, if you are trying to limit what sites your kids can browse to, why would you allow them to install the third party browser in the first place? You can set up Family sharing to notify you and when your child tries to install an app and you can approve or reject the approval from your phone. And if you are that concerned about your child’s well being, why would you install VPN software on their phone that allows a third party to track and record all of the internet activity from your child’s phone? A VPN app cant block content on a level of granularity that blocks certain videos or twitter accounts.. But if you’re counting on software to block Youtube videos and Twitter, you’re doing it wrong.
        ada1981 8y ago
        All I did was present evidence that your claim was false. You said the article didn’t make any claims as to what features weren’t available so I provided them. I’m not going to engage in a tangential analysis of those features, but you are welcome to it.
        scarface74 8y ago
        So you’re not going to engage in an analysis when the article was demonstrable wrong and you have no experience personally? How pray tell is a third party app going to filter only certain YouTube videos and certain Twitter posts? Didn’t you have at least the tiniest bit of suspicion about the article?

scarface74 8y ago

Really? That’s the road you’re going down? Apple wants you to use your phone more to increase the likelihood that you will drop it? And you still haven’t answered the other question. How are these third party apps better at controlling usage than Apple’s built in screen time and parental controls?

ada1981 8y ago
Your question was how does increased usage increase revenue. Repairs are a non-trivial source of revenue and increased usage certainly increases repairs. But more important are the other examples I gave which you have ignored. I don’t know how they are better personally, but the author of the article (did you read it?) certain pointed out some examples. As far as I can tell, your argument is that user phone usage has zero impact on apples revenue, I’m making the opposite case. My sense is that phone usage is correlated with revenue.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Yes I did read the entire article. Neither you nor the article (detail light) listed anyway that the third party apps were better than iOS built in features. Until you do, I think it’s safe to say that your unsubstantiated opinions are just that. Again, can you cite any feature that the third party apps have that Apple didn’t either include recently in the screen time feature or the parental controls that have been there forever?
  - ada1981 8y ago
    Maybe you didn’t read the whole thing? Or maybe you are just trolling here? It’s unclear. >> Unlike apps such as OurPact, Apple’s tools don’t allow parents to schedule different times throughout a day when an app is blocked — for school or family dinner. And Apple’s tool blocks adult content only on its Safari web browser and some apps, not on other browsers or many popular apps, like Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. << So, in case you missed it, here is what they are saying: 1) ability to set a schedule for blocking apps through out the day. 2) blocking content outside of Safari (in other apps / browsers / etc).
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Well let’s see where to start... If you set parental limits in settings. Those limits are supported by Chrome. But, if you are trying to limit what sites your kids can browse to, why would you allow them to install the third party browser in the first place? You can set up Family sharing to notify you and when your child tries to install an app and you can approve or reject the approval from your phone. And if you are that concerned about your child’s well being, why would you install VPN software on their phone that allows a third party to track and record all of the internet activity from your child’s phone? A VPN app cant block content on a level of granularity that blocks certain videos or twitter accounts.. But if you’re counting on software to block Youtube videos and Twitter, you’re doing it wrong.
      - ada1981 8y ago
        All I did was present evidence that your claim was false. You said the article didn’t make any claims as to what features weren’t available so I provided them. I’m not going to engage in a tangential analysis of those features, but you are welcome to it.
        scarface74 8y ago
        So you’re not going to engage in an analysis when the article was demonstrable wrong and you have no experience personally? How pray tell is a third party app going to filter only certain YouTube videos and certain Twitter posts? Didn’t you have at least the tiniest bit of suspicion about the article?