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Its worst problem is the inability to request scrollback from the server. I don't understand why that extension wasn't written, like, 20 years ago. You also ne
by dTal 8y ago
Its worst problem is the inability to request scrollback from the server. I don't understand why that extension wasn't written, like, 20 years ago.
You also need a "de facto official" client that includes a small list of default servers, and big friendly buttons for /JOIN and /PART - in fact the user should not be required to type a /COMMAND at any point.
- swiley 8y agoYes, I think this is fundamentally the main issue people have with IRC. Some IRC users don’t like the idea of the channel being logged though? That’s the best I can come up with for an argument against it.
- TheSwordsman 8y agoI think if you make it clear the channel is logged it's the best you can do, since they can choose to partake in the conversation or not. No forcing function. The downside comes when you've a Netsplit and you lose one side of the conversation. It does surprise me that some people are supporters of open source, but aren't supporters of open and transparent communication. Seems like a miss.
- thanatropism 8y agoI haven't seen netsplits since my teens and I'm 36.
- the8472 8y agothey happen regularly on efnet, occasionally on freenode. Presumably they don't occur on mozilla irc since it's a single node?
- gnu8 8y agoI can't see why anyone would want that. If you weren't connected to the server then those lines were not sent to you. They're ephemeral. Ask someone to fill you in on what happened or send you a log.
- solarbokeh 8y agoBecause chat is not ephemeral? It’s an asynchronous communication method like sms, im, email, and snail mail of old. When I send a text to a friend at 2am I don’t expect a response right then. I expect that their phone will be muted and they’ll see my message in the morning and then they can choose if and when to respond back. This is how literally all my peers think.
- zzo38computer 8y agoIf it is a public channel, then I think it should be logged. (People who do not want their messages logged should send them privately to the recipient instead; you can still use IRC for this). A command for receiving the log may be helpful to have though as an optional extension.
- Frondo 8y agoWhy even call it "part"? The word everyone's familiar with is "leave". "part" is already an irc jargon.
- the8472 8y agoit is perfectly valid english. E.g. "to part ways".
- caf 8y agoIt's definitely something that people have looked at, eg: https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/292 https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/292
- djsumdog 8y agoThere are IRC bouncers and Matrix bridges that can give you server history.