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Mozilla's talk: > Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all. An Internet that truly puts people first, wher
by superconformist 7y ago
Mozilla's talk:
> Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all. An Internet that truly puts people first, where individuals can shape their own experience and are empowered, safe and independent.
Mozilla's walk:
Fuck it, spin up a Slack room.
- kibwen 7y agoYou could levy this complaint if they actually end up picking Slack (or something similarly proprietary like Discord), but that seems quite premature. I'll miss moznet as much as anyone, but there's no denying that IRC has been left in the dust this past decade or more.
- progval 7y agoRust is moving to Discord https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/04/26/Mozilla-IRC-Sunset-and-the-Rust-Channel.html https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/04/26/Mozilla-IRC-Sunset-and...
- floatingatoll 7y agoHN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19761836 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19761836
- ori_b 7y agoIt seems that by left in the dust, you mean "remained lightweight and simple". The popular alternatives so far don't seem to have any clients I find pleasant to use, and are rather strongly discouraging anyone from writing third party clients.
- larkeith 7y agoI've not used it myself, but have you looked into Matrix?
- ori_b 7y agoYes
- Certhas 7y agoNo, by left in the dust they mean plummeting usage numbers. It seems your priorities are not well aligned with those of the majority of users...
- nwmcsween 7y agoIf the majority of users cannot figure out how to type /nickserv register do you really want to talk to them? Consider it a filter
- Multicomp 7y agoThis elitism is a big part of why younger users* such as myself have never gotten much use/utility from IRC and hence exacerbates its growing irrelevance compared to alternative tools. *Think XMPP GTalk etc. which were IMO superior in many ways to Slack or MS Teams
- nwmcsween 7y agoI'm not trying to be elitist, but if someone won't put a little effort into joining a conversation how will they ask questions or report issues?
- LamaOfRuin 7y agoYou could say that about everything Mozilla has done in the last 10 years. They continue on because it's as much about changing people's priorities as enabling them. If they then choose out of pragmatism to behave in ways contrary to their stated principles, people will justifiably call them out for hypocrisy.
- josteink 7y agoYeah I had the same feeling when reading the following bullet point. > We are evaluating products, not protocols. What a disappointment.