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Having to do fares in the bad part of town is the reason my brother carries a loaded gun under his seat while driving for Uber.

fwip 7y ago
Bringing a loaded gun with you is a good way to end up dead.
- yspeak 7y ago
  What how does that work logically or in reality ? Good guy has no gun, bad guy does, 100% good guy gets robbed, raped, kidnapped, or killed. Good guy has gun, bad guy runs away most of time or sometimes gets killed or captured or otherwise stopped some of time, or sometimes robs, rapes, or kills good guy despite good guy gun some of time. 100% of time I like the second scenario. "Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies. ... Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."cdc see https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives-are-saved-by-guns-and-why-dont-gun-controllers-care/ https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives...
- plankers 7y ago
  Well it's not very useful without the bullets.
- LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
  Yes, but the criminal always has first draw, first action. Unless the criminal is a bad shot or otherwise unlucky, you just escalate a situation in which you are already on the losing end of a stick. Just explain to me the game theory plus of a main-street battle, where the bad guy already holds you at gun point- and you have the chance to accelerate towards the bitter end?
  - plankers 7y ago
    And if the criminal doesn't have a gun, crime averted. Pretty useful, I'd say.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  It all depends on what the situation is. Some people get mugged by people without weapons or who only have a knife or are bluffing about having a gun. But yeah I wouldnt have it somewhere I couldnt reach for the gun immediately.
kelnos 7y ago
I'm going to guess that if someone in a bad part of town is pulling a gun or even a knife on your brother, they're not going to just lazily stand there staring at him as he fumbles to find a gun under his seat to defend himself.
- rossenberg79 7y ago
  I think the idea is if someone gets into his car and holds him at knife point or gunpoint he could grab their weapon and pull the gun to shoot them quickly. At some point he would be coerced into reaching for his “wallet”. It’s all situational though.

fwip 7y ago

Bringing a loaded gun with you is a good way to end up dead.

yspeak 7y ago
What how does that work logically or in reality ? Good guy has no gun, bad guy does, 100% good guy gets robbed, raped, kidnapped, or killed. Good guy has gun, bad guy runs away most of time or sometimes gets killed or captured or otherwise stopped some of time, or sometimes robs, rapes, or kills good guy despite good guy gun some of time. 100% of time I like the second scenario. "Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies. ... Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."cdc see https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives-are-saved-by-guns-and-why-dont-gun-controllers-care/ https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives...
plankers 7y ago
Well it's not very useful without the bullets.
LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
Yes, but the criminal always has first draw, first action. Unless the criminal is a bad shot or otherwise unlucky, you just escalate a situation in which you are already on the losing end of a stick. Just explain to me the game theory plus of a main-street battle, where the bad guy already holds you at gun point- and you have the chance to accelerate towards the bitter end?
- plankers 7y ago
  And if the criminal doesn't have a gun, crime averted. Pretty useful, I'd say.
giancarlostoro 7y ago
It all depends on what the situation is. Some people get mugged by people without weapons or who only have a knife or are bluffing about having a gun. But yeah I wouldnt have it somewhere I couldnt reach for the gun immediately.

kelnos 7y ago

I'm going to guess that if someone in a bad part of town is pulling a gun or even a knife on your brother, they're not going to just lazily stand there staring at him as he fumbles to find a gun under his seat to defend himself.

rossenberg79 7y ago
I think the idea is if someone gets into his car and holds him at knife point or gunpoint he could grab their weapon and pull the gun to shoot them quickly. At some point he would be coerced into reaching for his “wallet”. It’s all situational though.