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Please don't call T. A success. In hard facts, the tower was it and all the rest failed. Yes, he earns money with the T. Name ( ongoing - i think revenue will

Please don't call T. A success. In hard facts, the tower was it and all the rest failed. Yes, he earns money with the T. Name ( ongoing - i think revenue will slide a lot in 2 years) and yes, the presidency is not finished yet ( = also ongoing and I expect lawsuits after it). Also, the Apprentice was self produced ( fake it till you make it) and I wouldn't know what other success he could have had. Burning bridges for the US and self-enrichment ( cfr. ZTE and Ivanka T. In China) doesn't seem very respectful to me. Ps. Former Foursquare had analytics that the T. Named buildings had a lot less visitors.

kevmo 8y ago
Don't forget that he's also a WWE Hall of Famer. https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  Fake it till you make it. No money was involved for sure ;) - https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc
freewilly1040 8y ago
I mean I don’t like the guy but he’s certainly for the most part succeeded in what he’s set out to do with his life
- exelius 8y ago
  I’m pretty sure his life goal reads “you’re the best dolan!” He makes the rest up as he goes.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  What's had he succeeded? Trump tower with Daddy's money. Yes. But I'm not really sure what else. Renting out his name is actually based on the Trump Tower. Replicating the same success with casinos and hotels was a stock market disaster. Ps. Yes, he said everything went great to stock market analysts. But he still went broke 2 times shortly after.
  - s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
    Turning a few million into at least a billion is successful. There aren't that many billionaires. And everyone in real estate got hit by the crash then, not just Trump.
    - NicoJuicy 8y ago
      A few million is a big underestimation for > 410 million... Putting it on the be bank with 3% would even have made him a billionaire. Also, the market wasn't plummeting when he failed. Get your facts straight. Who even says he's a billionaire ( net worth)? Don't believe everything he says. Let see his taxes. Or it was a smart move and he didn't lie ( which I doubt) or he's living on borrowed money and gets away with it for now. Don't forget, his money-maker that still works is his name. If you don't believe that anymore, he's in deep trouble business-wise ( banks too since the property value would decline). He has every motive for dressing things up. Ps. I'm a billionaire 2, if I can borrow a billion. Doesn't mean I would be a success though. > At the time, three individuals with direct knowledge of Trump's finances told reporter Timothy L. O'Brien that Trump's actual net worth was between $150 and $250 million, though Trump then publicly claimed a net worth of $5 to $6 billion.[4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump Ps 2. Investigation of the Times suggests even 1 billion of his parents through tax schemes. Way more then your "couple of million" https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/d...
      - s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
        https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#4452a228992e https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#4452a228992e You don't need a tax return to know someone's net worth. The $413 million number is from a NYT article adjusting the supposed $60 million loan from his Father for inflation. Even with the best savings account rates you wouldn't get to a billion. Not even close to the 3 billion he's valued at. Sure, go try to borrow a billion dollars and report back. There's no denying Trump became successful. He made himself a billionaire. You don't need a tax return to verify that. Failed ventures doesn't make you a failure, especially if you have had successful ventures. Even more so if you go on to become President.
buzzerbetrayed 8y ago
Don't call the president of the United States a success? Sounds like you're letting your emotions get the best of you.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  > the presidency is not finished yet Please read. I already handled your observation. I'm saying that it ain't over untill the fat lady sings. If he gets lawsuited as hell ( and loses) and all his loyalists starts to abandon him or if the business of renting out his name also takes a serious decline after his presidency. Or even jail-time depending on what happens. I consider it a failure, yes. I also think they the people he's putting in the chair, aren't loyal to him ( no, not the Russians story. Talking about the tea party) Ps. Trump wanted to be president the last 20 years. So that part worked yes. To be determined of it was a smart move ( eg. The Simpsons prediction 16 years ago wasn't made from thin air) He wanted to be president, so the T. Name would benefit, so he could earn more money. That's what's troubling me. I don't hate Trump or anything. I just think he's unworthy for presidency. Those are totally different things and in the other comments, I also have facts-based arguments which you seem to lack.
tenpies 8y ago
Well, I guess I can add a new line to my personal creed: If I fail, let it be like Trump.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-m... I'm not sure if we know the entire story. To be honest, his taxes would prove that I'm right or wrong. If he had profits and if he isn't living on borrowed money that much. Kudus to him, very well played. But my gut says otherwise. I think time will tell. But for now, I think Daddy's money and 1 success ( T. Tower) with a couple of ongoing things derived from that 1 success 30 years ago ( Name licensing mostly, presidency was a business move to make it more popular, it seemed to have failed) Your personal creed should be: I wished my dad would have a lot of money ( 230 million $) for me to invest for over 50 years ;) Ps. If you question where the money came from. It's paid back with the tax reform that he pushed. Everyone lost except the top 1%. He still knows successful people, although he isn't one.

kevmo 8y ago

Don't forget that he's also a WWE Hall of Famer. https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump

NicoJuicy 8y ago
Fake it till you make it. No money was involved for sure ;) - https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc

freewilly1040 8y ago

I mean I don’t like the guy but he’s certainly for the most part succeeded in what he’s set out to do with his life

exelius 8y ago
I’m pretty sure his life goal reads “you’re the best dolan!” He makes the rest up as he goes.
NicoJuicy 8y ago
What's had he succeeded? Trump tower with Daddy's money. Yes. But I'm not really sure what else. Renting out his name is actually based on the Trump Tower. Replicating the same success with casinos and hotels was a stock market disaster. Ps. Yes, he said everything went great to stock market analysts. But he still went broke 2 times shortly after.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
  Turning a few million into at least a billion is successful. There aren't that many billionaires. And everyone in real estate got hit by the crash then, not just Trump.
  - NicoJuicy 8y ago
    A few million is a big underestimation for > 410 million... Putting it on the be bank with 3% would even have made him a billionaire. Also, the market wasn't plummeting when he failed. Get your facts straight. Who even says he's a billionaire ( net worth)? Don't believe everything he says. Let see his taxes. Or it was a smart move and he didn't lie ( which I doubt) or he's living on borrowed money and gets away with it for now. Don't forget, his money-maker that still works is his name. If you don't believe that anymore, he's in deep trouble business-wise ( banks too since the property value would decline). He has every motive for dressing things up. Ps. I'm a billionaire 2, if I can borrow a billion. Doesn't mean I would be a success though. > At the time, three individuals with direct knowledge of Trump's finances told reporter Timothy L. O'Brien that Trump's actual net worth was between $150 and $250 million, though Trump then publicly claimed a net worth of $5 to $6 billion.[4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump Ps 2. Investigation of the Times suggests even 1 billion of his parents through tax schemes. Way more then your "couple of million" https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/d...
    - s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
      https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#4452a228992e https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#4452a228992e You don't need a tax return to know someone's net worth. The $413 million number is from a NYT article adjusting the supposed $60 million loan from his Father for inflation. Even with the best savings account rates you wouldn't get to a billion. Not even close to the 3 billion he's valued at. Sure, go try to borrow a billion dollars and report back. There's no denying Trump became successful. He made himself a billionaire. You don't need a tax return to verify that. Failed ventures doesn't make you a failure, especially if you have had successful ventures. Even more so if you go on to become President.

buzzerbetrayed 8y ago

Don't call the president of the United States a success? Sounds like you're letting your emotions get the best of you.

NicoJuicy 8y ago
> the presidency is not finished yet Please read. I already handled your observation. I'm saying that it ain't over untill the fat lady sings. If he gets lawsuited as hell ( and loses) and all his loyalists starts to abandon him or if the business of renting out his name also takes a serious decline after his presidency. Or even jail-time depending on what happens. I consider it a failure, yes. I also think they the people he's putting in the chair, aren't loyal to him ( no, not the Russians story. Talking about the tea party) Ps. Trump wanted to be president the last 20 years. So that part worked yes. To be determined of it was a smart move ( eg. The Simpsons prediction 16 years ago wasn't made from thin air) He wanted to be president, so the T. Name would benefit, so he could earn more money. That's what's troubling me. I don't hate Trump or anything. I just think he's unworthy for presidency. Those are totally different things and in the other comments, I also have facts-based arguments which you seem to lack.

tenpies 8y ago

Well, I guess I can add a new line to my personal creed: If I fail, let it be like Trump.

NicoJuicy 8y ago
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-m... I'm not sure if we know the entire story. To be honest, his taxes would prove that I'm right or wrong. If he had profits and if he isn't living on borrowed money that much. Kudus to him, very well played. But my gut says otherwise. I think time will tell. But for now, I think Daddy's money and 1 success ( T. Tower) with a couple of ongoing things derived from that 1 success 30 years ago ( Name licensing mostly, presidency was a business move to make it more popular, it seemed to have failed) Your personal creed should be: I wished my dad would have a lot of money ( 230 million $) for me to invest for over 50 years ;) Ps. If you question where the money came from. It's paid back with the tax reform that he pushed. Everyone lost except the top 1%. He still knows successful people, although he isn't one.