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I don't want to be dismissive, but is there a good TLDR on this, preferably in written form, or any other resources you'd recommend? I'd love to catch up on the

I don't want to be dismissive, but is there a good TLDR on this, preferably in written form, or any other resources you'd recommend? I'd love to catch up on the science, but listening to six hours of podcast might cut into my sleep!

jacobolus 7y ago
You could read Walker’s 2017 book, Why We Sleep, https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author He’s the director of UC Berkeley’s Center for Human Sleep Science, so you could also look up his lab’s scholarly publications https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s
- rainonmoon 7y ago
  I'm not sure an entire book would constitute a "too long; didn't read".
  - Swenrekcah 7y ago
    Unless the original text is the whole body of sleep research. In that case a popsci book is a nice TLDR.
  - maxerickson 7y ago
    A book is considerably more browsable than a 6 hour audio recording.
heymijo 7y ago
The links I posted above are to an outline of notes someone took for the 6 hours of podcasts. Not quite a tl;dr but a very skimmable outline nonetheless!
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theNJR 7y ago
Listen at 2x. Bam, 3 hours instead of 6. That’s a few commutes, work outs, or some other daily task that can be filled with audio. And it’s very easy listening.
kolleykibber 7y ago
Here's my attempt after just finishing the book, after 4 hours sleep. Sleep is much more important than anybody ever imagined and sufficient sleep is the cure to a large percentage of western societies problems. There are few financial incentives in promoting sleep so we do not hear about this over drugs, caffeine etc. REM sleep is the source of creativity and thought resolution where different parts of the brain communicate that do not usually. Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Non rem sleep is where the brain clears itself of the byproducts of brain activity. Without this the brain becomes damaged and is probably the cause of dementia. Sleeping pills, LCDs, artificial light, caffeine, alarm clocks, early school starts and alcohol are all very bad. Sleep in a dark room at 18 degrees celsius for 8 hours, allowing 1 hour to fall asleep.
- stevedt 7y ago
  > Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Slight quibble: the fraction of REM sleep in each sleep cycle is highest during the last sleep cycle of the night.

jacobolus 7y ago

You could read Walker’s 2017 book, Why We Sleep, https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author He’s the director of UC Berkeley’s Center for Human Sleep Science, so you could also look up his lab’s scholarly publications https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s

rainonmoon 7y ago
I'm not sure an entire book would constitute a "too long; didn't read".
- Swenrekcah 7y ago
  Unless the original text is the whole body of sleep research. In that case a popsci book is a nice TLDR.
- maxerickson 7y ago
  A book is considerably more browsable than a 6 hour audio recording.

heymijo 7y ago

The links I posted above are to an outline of notes someone took for the 6 hours of podcasts. Not quite a tl;dr but a very skimmable outline nonetheless!

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theNJR 7y ago

Listen at 2x. Bam, 3 hours instead of 6. That’s a few commutes, work outs, or some other daily task that can be filled with audio. And it’s very easy listening.

kolleykibber 7y ago

Here's my attempt after just finishing the book, after 4 hours sleep. Sleep is much more important than anybody ever imagined and sufficient sleep is the cure to a large percentage of western societies problems. There are few financial incentives in promoting sleep so we do not hear about this over drugs, caffeine etc. REM sleep is the source of creativity and thought resolution where different parts of the brain communicate that do not usually. Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Non rem sleep is where the brain clears itself of the byproducts of brain activity. Without this the brain becomes damaged and is probably the cause of dementia. Sleeping pills, LCDs, artificial light, caffeine, alarm clocks, early school starts and alcohol are all very bad. Sleep in a dark room at 18 degrees celsius for 8 hours, allowing 1 hour to fall asleep.

stevedt 7y ago
> Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Slight quibble: the fraction of REM sleep in each sleep cycle is highest during the last sleep cycle of the night.