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I just last week had to deal with customers that had locked-down computers stuck on IE11 and hit some JS that used unsupported features. IE11 was released afte

I just last week had to deal with customers that had locked-down computers stuck on IE11 and hit some JS that used unsupported features. IE11 was released after the relevant features were in common use in the Javascript community, but Microsoft was still in its "the web is better with our proprietary extensions, trust us" mode so they aren't in IE11. They can't upgrade their browser because IE11 is the last browser version Microsoft supports on their Microsoft operating system, because they want users to upgrade. They can't use an alternative browser because they're in a security-sensitive industry with policies written in the Old Days when running third-party software was marketed as "dangerous", including by Microsoft. They don't want to upgrade operating systems because that means a huge software spend to Microsoft, plus migrating all their other software, POS hardware, etc. The point being, none of these are things Microsoft is doing today. But they're all decisions they made in the past, and the consequences of those decisions are still making people's jobs harder.

tracker1 8y ago
Edge is MS's current browser... IE11 was an incremental release over IE10 and several years old at this point. Most browsers update very frequently. IE never did. Maybe you need to look at whoever locked said computers down to ONLY support IE? Chrome and Firefox are both better options at this point. It really isn't MS's fault that an organization can't be bothered to update their software for what, 4 years now?
WorldMaker 8y ago
IE11 was well after the "web is better with our proprietary extensions" days. It even tried to disable add-ons and extensions entirely by default until (enterprise) backward compat anger forced their hand. For IE11 (and 10 and Edge in either direction around it), Microsoft was firmly stuck in a "WebKit/Blink treadmill" where they had to run twice as fast to try to keep up and almost succeeded (until they gave up recently, RIP EdgeHTML). Most of rest of these complaints sound like your customers should stop hitting themselves in the face.

tracker1 8y ago

Edge is MS's current browser... IE11 was an incremental release over IE10 and several years old at this point. Most browsers update very frequently. IE never did. Maybe you need to look at whoever locked said computers down to ONLY support IE? Chrome and Firefox are both better options at this point. It really isn't MS's fault that an organization can't be bothered to update their software for what, 4 years now?

WorldMaker 8y ago

IE11 was well after the "web is better with our proprietary extensions" days. It even tried to disable add-ons and extensions entirely by default until (enterprise) backward compat anger forced their hand. For IE11 (and 10 and Edge in either direction around it), Microsoft was firmly stuck in a "WebKit/Blink treadmill" where they had to run twice as fast to try to keep up and almost succeeded (until they gave up recently, RIP EdgeHTML). Most of rest of these complaints sound like your customers should stop hitting themselves in the face.