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They are worse than parking tickets. A parking ticket is a loss in most all circumstances. It may be small, but the incentive is there to avoid the ticket. In t

They are worse than parking tickets. A parking ticket is a loss in most all circumstances. It may be small, but the incentive is there to avoid the ticket. In these business cases, they are a net gain. The company does something illegal, makes a bunch of money off of it, and gets a fine for less than they made. They earn more by breaking the law and are incentivized to do so.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
If you were a delivery driver you would consider parking tickets a cost of doing business too.
- ska 8y ago
  The difference is it is quite likely that the parking ticket cost is higher than the profit, even revenue you made while parked there. So there is a real incentive to at least try and avoid them. Consider the case if a parking ticket was 5c - why would (absent other disincentives) delivery drivers ever obey parking signage?
  - awad 8y ago
    This is a bit old but AFAIK still in place. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14602712/ns/business-us_business/t/delivery-firms-big-ticket-item-parking-fines/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14602712/ns/business-us_business/t... "Under the program, the type of violation determines the ticket’s outcome. For example, double-parking in some parts of the city is a violation that can be erased completely for commercial vehicles. Violations for blocking a crosswalk or a bike lane can only be reduced by about 15 percent. Fines for blocking a driveway can be knocked down by 75 percent. To date, 312 companies are enrolled in the program, including heavyweights like UPS, FedEx, Verizon, Coca-Cola and Time Warner Cable, which are the city’s biggest commercial offenders."
    - ska 8y ago
      crazy
- mfoy_ 8y ago
  It's as if legal parking costs $20, the parking ticket is $5. However you may not even get the parking ticket, so obviously you would never pay for parking.
  - moufestaphio 8y ago
    This was the situation for bicycle parking in Japan. ~$5 a day to park my bike legally. ~$25 ticket if my bike got confiscated for being parked illegally. It got confiscated twice in 3 years. Needless to say, basically everyone parked illegally.
    - phamilton 8y ago
      When I was a kid, Brussels public transport was purely proactive payment. Hop on a bus/tram/subway, scan your card. I didn't ride enough for it to matter, and it was cheap (1 euro per trip), so I didn't game the system but many of my friends just decided it was either going to cost them $500/yr in fines or it would cost them $500/yr in tickets, so they just rode without a ticket.
- hodgesrm 8y ago
  That's pretty much how it works with delivery services and ride shares where I live. Tickets are of course discounted by the chance of actually getting one during the time you are in violation, which seems to be small. They are close to useless as a disincentive.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

If you were a delivery driver you would consider parking tickets a cost of doing business too.

ska 8y ago
The difference is it is quite likely that the parking ticket cost is higher than the profit, even revenue you made while parked there. So there is a real incentive to at least try and avoid them. Consider the case if a parking ticket was 5c - why would (absent other disincentives) delivery drivers ever obey parking signage?
- awad 8y ago
  This is a bit old but AFAIK still in place. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14602712/ns/business-us_business/t/delivery-firms-big-ticket-item-parking-fines/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14602712/ns/business-us_business/t... "Under the program, the type of violation determines the ticket’s outcome. For example, double-parking in some parts of the city is a violation that can be erased completely for commercial vehicles. Violations for blocking a crosswalk or a bike lane can only be reduced by about 15 percent. Fines for blocking a driveway can be knocked down by 75 percent. To date, 312 companies are enrolled in the program, including heavyweights like UPS, FedEx, Verizon, Coca-Cola and Time Warner Cable, which are the city’s biggest commercial offenders."
  - ska 8y ago
    crazy
mfoy_ 8y ago
It's as if legal parking costs $20, the parking ticket is $5. However you may not even get the parking ticket, so obviously you would never pay for parking.
- moufestaphio 8y ago
  This was the situation for bicycle parking in Japan. ~$5 a day to park my bike legally. ~$25 ticket if my bike got confiscated for being parked illegally. It got confiscated twice in 3 years. Needless to say, basically everyone parked illegally.
  - phamilton 8y ago
    When I was a kid, Brussels public transport was purely proactive payment. Hop on a bus/tram/subway, scan your card. I didn't ride enough for it to matter, and it was cheap (1 euro per trip), so I didn't game the system but many of my friends just decided it was either going to cost them $500/yr in fines or it would cost them $500/yr in tickets, so they just rode without a ticket.
hodgesrm 8y ago
That's pretty much how it works with delivery services and ride shares where I live. Tickets are of course discounted by the chance of actually getting one during the time you are in violation, which seems to be small. They are close to useless as a disincentive.