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I read somewhere that the Max was shipped before simulator upgrades were available to create scenarios involving MCAS. Also, several pilots have said their airl

I read somewhere that the Max was shipped before simulator upgrades were available to create scenarios involving MCAS. Also, several pilots have said their airlines didn't require new simulator training to fly the Max. Even after the Lion Air crash, few airlines had simulators with MCAS support. This says to me that no, they did not have the debugging tools to predict this because they had no plans to simulate it before going to market. The same was found of Toyota after their uncommanded acceleration lawsuits. In that case, the company was found to have deliberately ignored industry-standard testing procedures for mission-critical software. Could that also be the case here?

jasode 8y ago
>Also, several pilots have said their airlines didn't require new simulator training to fly the Max. Right. The media repeatedly reminded us that pilots only had a 2-hour orientation on an iPad for the new 737 MAX. I was wondering if a 737 MAX simulator that could replicate the AOA failures even existed. If Boeing's own internal test pilots had no ability to synthesize a broken AOA with misbehaving MCAS in the flight sim, it means that forcing the airlines to pay more money to have all their pilots more comprehensively trained in a 737 MAX simulator may not have prevented the crashes. The 737 MAX simulator hardware/software would still had to have been modified. Pilots can't train for an edge case scenario that the simulator can't artificially produce. Also in an alternate universe, a "more realistic" sim with AOA failure could have provided feedback loop to the Boeing engineers to adjust the MCAS software to be less aggressive and/or emphasize the need for 2 AOA sensors instead of just 1.