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I think you're being overly negative. I think you can do a lot with a little. Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Does it need ba

I think you're being overly negative. I think you can do a lot with a little. Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Does it need backups? I don't think so. These are features users could opt-in for if it was that important to them. Could be something simple as sending encrypted nightly diffs to an email address. The whole world doesn't need to be over engineered to have a useful product.

zimpenfish 8y ago
> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Having had a meeting this afternoon where the critical information required for me to pick up a project was only available in Slack messages, yeah, I think it does. (Personally I would be roasting the two people involved for not doing that discussion over email or at least not writing the damn things down afterwards but hey ho, I'm not in charge.)
IanCal 8y ago
> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Does it need backups? I don't think so. These are features users could opt-in for if it was that important to them. They do, that's why people pay for it.
acchow 8y ago
> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? Absolutely, yes. There is a ton of tribal knowledge contained in chat history.
fragmede 8y ago
It's not an unfair point, given how big MVP culture is here. Unfortunately, "sending encrypted nightly diffs to an email address" comes off very much the same way as the infamous dropbox comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Having a search feature, and doing useful backups isn't over engineering, they're features that users are opt-ing in to paying for, to the tune of $400 million/yr.
sincerely 8y ago
>Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? This is the main reason people pay for Slack instead of sticking with the free tier, so I'm guessing that for a lot of people, it does.
johncolanduoni 8y ago
> Does it need backups? I don't think so. When all the communications of you and your coworkers suddenly aren't there the next morning, you might think so.

zimpenfish 8y ago

> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Having had a meeting this afternoon where the critical information required for me to pick up a project was only available in Slack messages, yeah, I think it does. (Personally I would be roasting the two people involved for not doing that discussion over email or at least not writing the damn things down afterwards but hey ho, I'm not in charge.)

IanCal 8y ago

> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? I don't think so. Does it need backups? I don't think so. These are features users could opt-in for if it was that important to them. They do, that's why people pay for it.

acchow 8y ago

> Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? Absolutely, yes. There is a ton of tribal knowledge contained in chat history.

fragmede 8y ago

It's not an unfair point, given how big MVP culture is here. Unfortunately, "sending encrypted nightly diffs to an email address" comes off very much the same way as the infamous dropbox comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Having a search feature, and doing useful backups isn't over engineering, they're features that users are opt-ing in to paying for, to the tune of $400 million/yr.

sincerely 8y ago

>Does a chat app need to be fully searchable? This is the main reason people pay for Slack instead of sticking with the free tier, so I'm guessing that for a lot of people, it does.

johncolanduoni 8y ago

> Does it need backups? I don't think so. When all the communications of you and your coworkers suddenly aren't there the next morning, you might think so.