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Sure. And please note, I'm not prescribing or suggesting anything about the end of the world regarding a single missed night of sleep. I am commenting about th

Sure. And please note, I'm not prescribing or suggesting anything about the end of the world regarding a single missed night of sleep. I am commenting about the world of ignorance I had regarding sleep prior to a very recent education. If you or other people reading this are unaware of the depth of what sleep research has learned in the past 15 or so years I will point you to this six hour conversation that Dr. Matthew Walker had with Peter Attia on his podcast. Part 1 https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/02/sleep-4/ https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/02/sleep-4/ Part 2 https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/17/sleep-5/ https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/17/sleep-5/ Part 3 https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/18/sleep-6/ https://podcastnotes.org/2019/04/18/sleep-6/

illirik 8y ago
I don't want to be dismissive, but is there a good TLDR on this, preferably in written form, or any other resources you'd recommend? I'd love to catch up on the science, but listening to six hours of podcast might cut into my sleep!
- jacobolus 8y ago
  You could read Walker’s 2017 book, Why We Sleep, https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author He’s the director of UC Berkeley’s Center for Human Sleep Science, so you could also look up his lab’s scholarly publications https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s
  - rainonmoon 8y ago
    I'm not sure an entire book would constitute a "too long; didn't read".
    - Swenrekcah 8y ago
      Unless the original text is the whole body of sleep research. In that case a popsci book is a nice TLDR.
    - maxerickson 8y ago
      A book is considerably more browsable than a 6 hour audio recording.
- heymijo 8y ago
  The links I posted above are to an outline of notes someone took for the 6 hours of podcasts. Not quite a tl;dr but a very skimmable outline nonetheless!
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- theNJR 8y ago
  Listen at 2x. Bam, 3 hours instead of 6. That’s a few commutes, work outs, or some other daily task that can be filled with audio. And it’s very easy listening.
- kolleykibber 8y ago
  Here's my attempt after just finishing the book, after 4 hours sleep. Sleep is much more important than anybody ever imagined and sufficient sleep is the cure to a large percentage of western societies problems. There are few financial incentives in promoting sleep so we do not hear about this over drugs, caffeine etc. REM sleep is the source of creativity and thought resolution where different parts of the brain communicate that do not usually. Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Non rem sleep is where the brain clears itself of the byproducts of brain activity. Without this the brain becomes damaged and is probably the cause of dementia. Sleeping pills, LCDs, artificial light, caffeine, alarm clocks, early school starts and alcohol are all very bad. Sleep in a dark room at 18 degrees celsius for 8 hours, allowing 1 hour to fall asleep.
  - stevedt 8y ago
    > Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Slight quibble: the fraction of REM sleep in each sleep cycle is highest during the last sleep cycle of the night.

illirik 8y ago

I don't want to be dismissive, but is there a good TLDR on this, preferably in written form, or any other resources you'd recommend? I'd love to catch up on the science, but listening to six hours of podcast might cut into my sleep!

jacobolus 8y ago
You could read Walker’s 2017 book, Why We Sleep, https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://amzn.com/1501144316 https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author https://www.sleepdiplomat.com/author He’s the director of UC Berkeley’s Center for Human Sleep Science, so you could also look up his lab’s scholarly publications https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s https://www.humansleepscience.com/p-u-b-l-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s
- rainonmoon 8y ago
  I'm not sure an entire book would constitute a "too long; didn't read".
  - Swenrekcah 8y ago
    Unless the original text is the whole body of sleep research. In that case a popsci book is a nice TLDR.
  - maxerickson 8y ago
    A book is considerably more browsable than a 6 hour audio recording.
heymijo 8y ago
The links I posted above are to an outline of notes someone took for the 6 hours of podcasts. Not quite a tl;dr but a very skimmable outline nonetheless!
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theNJR 8y ago
Listen at 2x. Bam, 3 hours instead of 6. That’s a few commutes, work outs, or some other daily task that can be filled with audio. And it’s very easy listening.
kolleykibber 8y ago
Here's my attempt after just finishing the book, after 4 hours sleep. Sleep is much more important than anybody ever imagined and sufficient sleep is the cure to a large percentage of western societies problems. There are few financial incentives in promoting sleep so we do not hear about this over drugs, caffeine etc. REM sleep is the source of creativity and thought resolution where different parts of the brain communicate that do not usually. Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Non rem sleep is where the brain clears itself of the byproducts of brain activity. Without this the brain becomes damaged and is probably the cause of dementia. Sleeping pills, LCDs, artificial light, caffeine, alarm clocks, early school starts and alcohol are all very bad. Sleep in a dark room at 18 degrees celsius for 8 hours, allowing 1 hour to fall asleep.
- stevedt 8y ago
  > Rem sleep occurs in the last two hours of an 8 hour sleep. Slight quibble: the fraction of REM sleep in each sleep cycle is highest during the last sleep cycle of the night.