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Why do you think this will be rootable? Also, The nexus one barely was (in the sense that you couldn't replicate a os Build as done by google with the provided

by gcb 16y ago

Why do you think this will be rootable? Also, The nexus one barely was (in the sense that you couldn't replicate a os Build as done by google with the provided source code)

sandGorgon 16y ago
cyanogenmod any ? http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/33-google-nexus-one/ http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/33-google-nexus-one/ (Forums currently down because everyone must be flocking there)
- gcb 16y ago
  my point is not that the hardware allows you to access the bootloader. i said "to do a custom build with the same qualities as the google provided one" that is still impossible and show how little google is willing to give. (and that's even after i gave them $500 for the phone and $50 for a desktop dock that they will not even let me pair it with non-nexus one bluetooth devices)
  - spearo77 16y ago
    Is there any plans to release a dock for it? One that can pass-through the USB connection for charging and development? I sorely miss the simple dock that the iPhone (3/3GS/4) has for development.
    - gcb 16y ago
      http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37086 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37086 $16. even charges a second battery. way better than the crappy official cradle i got. the usb audio feature of the official cradle is cool at first, until you remove the phone and audio stops! mind blowing that something wireless got turned off when you remove the device. then the fanboys here will downvote me because you can enable it in a way that it does not turn off. but then you have to manually turn on, loosing all the appeal of just putting in the cradle to turn it on.
  - sandGorgon 16y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean by that, because CM is as custom as it gets: https://github.com/CyanogenMod https://github.com/CyanogenMod It even adds a new "Cyanogenmod settings" to your settings panel where you can do stuff like alter cache size, etc. CM removes the default launcher and replaces it with the ADW launcher. CM also incorporated the AAC+ bug fixes much before Google. In conjunction with the DroidBasement overclocked kernels (http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/ http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/), I have my ole MyTouch 3G performing better than stock 2.2 Could you cite why you say that it is impossible to "to do a custom build with the same qualities as the google provided one" ?
runjake 16y ago
Because: 1. The Nexus One was. 2. This phone will be targeted at devs once again, many of which can use such functionality.
- gcb 16y ago
  > 1. The Nexus One was. how many samsung ones are? that was my main point
  - drivebyacct2 16y ago
    Most of the Samsung phones have ROMs on them now. The N1 was easy because the vendor overlay that Google provided, worked nearly perfectly out of the box for the N1... which is going to be the case for the Nexus S. Also, the open bootloader helps though I believe Samsung phones are "open" in the sense that ODIN/ODEN(?) can flash it easily without much difficulty.
  - runjake 16y ago
    In that case, pretty easy. Samsung doesn't make it too hard to root almost all of their devices.
drivebyacct2 16y ago
It had an unlockable bootloader and openly flashable recovery. Additionally, Google themselves have responded to the complaint that the builds are missing some bits. They have taken steps to remove those hooks as being necessary, and some of the pieces of the bootstrap are not their property to place in AOSP. That having been said, CM had a build running on his Nexus One within hours of source being released...

by gcb 16y ago

Why do you think this will be rootable? Also, The nexus one barely was (in the sense that you couldn't replicate a os Build as done by google with the provided source code)

sandGorgon 16y ago

cyanogenmod any ? http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/33-google-nexus-one/ http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/33-google-nexus-one/ (Forums currently down because everyone must be flocking there)

gcb 16y ago
my point is not that the hardware allows you to access the bootloader. i said "to do a custom build with the same qualities as the google provided one" that is still impossible and show how little google is willing to give. (and that's even after i gave them $500 for the phone and $50 for a desktop dock that they will not even let me pair it with non-nexus one bluetooth devices)
- spearo77 16y ago
  Is there any plans to release a dock for it? One that can pass-through the USB connection for charging and development? I sorely miss the simple dock that the iPhone (3/3GS/4) has for development.
  - gcb 16y ago
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37086 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37086 $16. even charges a second battery. way better than the crappy official cradle i got. the usb audio feature of the official cradle is cool at first, until you remove the phone and audio stops! mind blowing that something wireless got turned off when you remove the device. then the fanboys here will downvote me because you can enable it in a way that it does not turn off. but then you have to manually turn on, loosing all the appeal of just putting in the cradle to turn it on.
- sandGorgon 16y ago
  I'm not sure what you mean by that, because CM is as custom as it gets: https://github.com/CyanogenMod https://github.com/CyanogenMod It even adds a new "Cyanogenmod settings" to your settings panel where you can do stuff like alter cache size, etc. CM removes the default launcher and replaces it with the ADW launcher. CM also incorporated the AAC+ bug fixes much before Google. In conjunction with the DroidBasement overclocked kernels (http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/ http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/), I have my ole MyTouch 3G performing better than stock 2.2 Could you cite why you say that it is impossible to "to do a custom build with the same qualities as the google provided one" ?

runjake 16y ago

Because: 1. The Nexus One was. 2. This phone will be targeted at devs once again, many of which can use such functionality.

gcb 16y ago
> 1. The Nexus One was. how many samsung ones are? that was my main point
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  Most of the Samsung phones have ROMs on them now. The N1 was easy because the vendor overlay that Google provided, worked nearly perfectly out of the box for the N1... which is going to be the case for the Nexus S. Also, the open bootloader helps though I believe Samsung phones are "open" in the sense that ODIN/ODEN(?) can flash it easily without much difficulty.
- runjake 16y ago
  In that case, pretty easy. Samsung doesn't make it too hard to root almost all of their devices.

drivebyacct2 16y ago

It had an unlockable bootloader and openly flashable recovery. Additionally, Google themselves have responded to the complaint that the builds are missing some bits. They have taken steps to remove those hooks as being necessary, and some of the pieces of the bootstrap are not their property to place in AOSP. That having been said, CM had a build running on his Nexus One within hours of source being released...