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Many anti-vaxxers are not religious conservatives but progressives who live in rich enclaves of Marin county etc. https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/kinderga

by TomVDB 8y ago

Many anti-vaxxers are not religious conservatives but progressives who live in rich enclaves of Marin county etc. https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/kindergartens-vaccines-medical-exemptions-calif-13085811.php https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/kindergartens-vaccines-...

org3432 8y ago
Waldorf Schools show a number of times too, they tend to mix up science with romanticized fake spirituality, which would make perfect sense some of them would go too far. The parents are typically well educated, but also have a wishy-washy spiritual seeker tendency.
tzs 8y ago
In fact, there is no major religion that is against vaccination [1]. Even religions that you might expect to have a problem because of some of the ingredients in the vaccine, such as Hindus with vaccines that include bovine components, or Muslims and Jews with vaccines using porcine components, are fine with them even with if they include those components. Jainism you might expect to have a problem because they are against violence against any life, including microorganisms. But vaccines are allowed, with regrets, as necessary to protect other lives. (The same reason they allow soap and cooking). Scientologists are OK with vaccination. Among Christians, most denominations are fine with vaccines. Catholics, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Amish, Anglican, Baptist, Mormons, Congregational, Episcopalian, Jehovah's Witness, Lutheran, Mennonite, Methodist, Quaker, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Seventh-Day Adventist, and Unitarian-Universalist...all fine with vaccination. The Christians against vaccination are the Christian Scientists, the Dutch Reformed Congregations, and the faith healing denominations. (Christian Scientists think vaccinations are unnecessary because they think they can cure disease with prayer, but they don't have a religious problem with getting vaccinations if they are required to enroll in school or travel or things like that). [1] https://www.vumc.org/health-wellness/news-resource-articles/immunizations-and-religion https://www.vumc.org/health-wellness/news-resource-articles/...
- droithomme 8y ago
  Is Catholicism a major religion? The Vatican issued an official statement about the morality of using, administering, allowing and requiring vaccines which include aborted fetal cells. http://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocument.htm http://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocume...
  - tzs 8y ago
    The document you cite concludes that it is OK for Catholics to use such vaccines on their children if there are no vaccines not derived from such cells available because the moral necessity to protect the health of your children and those they come in contact with outweighs the mild, remote passive material cooperation with abortion doing so provides. That was from 2005. They updated their position in 2017 [1]. The two abortions that provided the cell lines used for vaccines were more than 50 years ago. That removes even that mild passive material cooperation concern: > the cell lines currently in use are very distant from the original abortions and no longer imply that bond of moral cooperation indispensable for an ethically negative evaluation of their use ... > The technical characteristics of the production of the vaccines most commonly used in childhood lead us to exclude that there is a morally relevant cooperation between those who use these vaccines today and the practice of voluntary abortion They also say that there is a "moral obligation to guarantee the vaccination coverage necessary for the safety of others". [1] https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03/20/vaticans-academy-for-life-encourages-parents-to-vaccinate-children/ https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03/20/vaticans-academy-for-...

by TomVDB 8y ago

org3432 8y ago

Waldorf Schools show a number of times too, they tend to mix up science with romanticized fake spirituality, which would make perfect sense some of them would go too far. The parents are typically well educated, but also have a wishy-washy spiritual seeker tendency.

tzs 8y ago

In fact, there is no major religion that is against vaccination [1]. Even religions that you might expect to have a problem because of some of the ingredients in the vaccine, such as Hindus with vaccines that include bovine components, or Muslims and Jews with vaccines using porcine components, are fine with them even with if they include those components. Jainism you might expect to have a problem because they are against violence against any life, including microorganisms. But vaccines are allowed, with regrets, as necessary to protect other lives. (The same reason they allow soap and cooking). Scientologists are OK with vaccination. Among Christians, most denominations are fine with vaccines. Catholics, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Amish, Anglican, Baptist, Mormons, Congregational, Episcopalian, Jehovah's Witness, Lutheran, Mennonite, Methodist, Quaker, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Seventh-Day Adventist, and Unitarian-Universalist...all fine with vaccination. The Christians against vaccination are the Christian Scientists, the Dutch Reformed Congregations, and the faith healing denominations. (Christian Scientists think vaccinations are unnecessary because they think they can cure disease with prayer, but they don't have a religious problem with getting vaccinations if they are required to enroll in school or travel or things like that). [1] https://www.vumc.org/health-wellness/news-resource-articles/immunizations-and-religion https://www.vumc.org/health-wellness/news-resource-articles/...

droithomme 8y ago
Is Catholicism a major religion? The Vatican issued an official statement about the morality of using, administering, allowing and requiring vaccines which include aborted fetal cells. http://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocument.htm http://www.immunize.org/talking-about-vaccines/vaticandocume...
- tzs 8y ago
  The document you cite concludes that it is OK for Catholics to use such vaccines on their children if there are no vaccines not derived from such cells available because the moral necessity to protect the health of your children and those they come in contact with outweighs the mild, remote passive material cooperation with abortion doing so provides. That was from 2005. They updated their position in 2017 [1]. The two abortions that provided the cell lines used for vaccines were more than 50 years ago. That removes even that mild passive material cooperation concern: > the cell lines currently in use are very distant from the original abortions and no longer imply that bond of moral cooperation indispensable for an ethically negative evaluation of their use ... > The technical characteristics of the production of the vaccines most commonly used in childhood lead us to exclude that there is a morally relevant cooperation between those who use these vaccines today and the practice of voluntary abortion They also say that there is a "moral obligation to guarantee the vaccination coverage necessary for the safety of others". [1] https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03/20/vaticans-academy-for-life-encourages-parents-to-vaccinate-children/ https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03/20/vaticans-academy-for-...