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I mean every company has problems... Microsoft just seems to be generally headed in a better direction vs worse which seems way more common.

sametmax 7y ago
Every people have problems too. Some beat their wife, some are a bit moody. MS has been repeatedly caught lying, cheating, insulting and corrupting. Can I slap you if I give a treat to a puppy later ? Because being pro-microsoft now that their PR is more human and their actions more positive looks pretty much like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they make TypeScript and VSCode. But they need 20 years of being a good boy to compensate for what they did. More if we want to take in consideration they became incredibly rich doing it.
- intern4tional 7y ago
  They don't need 20 years of anything; they simply needed a change in leadership, which they got. Satya is drastically changing the culture and with it the business. I get there are people out there that will always have an ax to grind (you seem to be one of those) but if you wait 20 years to trust a business again, you'll be left behind with any improvements or optimizations that happen in the meantime. If Microsoft sustains its direction for a few more years at most, given the pace at which the industry they are in evolves, the legacy practices they had won't much matter.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    The way you see things leads to the society of today, where big companies have powers close to the state, and very little accountability. If it's ok to accumulate immense wealth and power by misbehaving for 20 years, and just with switching a head and orienting PR, it's all forgiven, then why not keep doing it ?
  - whydoineedthis 7y ago
    Left behind? I haven't been compelled to own or use a Microsoft product in 10 years. I would be surprised if it changed in the next 10.
PascLeRasc 7y ago
We're not wedded to these big tech companies. I don't know why we need to forgive them at all. Let's talk about smaller companies making interesting products that haven't betrayed our trust, like System76, Lulzbot, or Purism. There's a whole world of hardware and software out there.
- naikrovek 7y ago
  We don't need to forgive them, I personally just don't have the energy to remain angry at a company that has CLEARLY changed direction significantly. All of you are of course free to remain pissed off at anyone or anything you want. Just be mindful of why you're mad, and make sure once in a while that it's still worth being angry about.

sametmax 7y ago

Every people have problems too. Some beat their wife, some are a bit moody. MS has been repeatedly caught lying, cheating, insulting and corrupting. Can I slap you if I give a treat to a puppy later ? Because being pro-microsoft now that their PR is more human and their actions more positive looks pretty much like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they make TypeScript and VSCode. But they need 20 years of being a good boy to compensate for what they did. More if we want to take in consideration they became incredibly rich doing it.

intern4tional 7y ago
They don't need 20 years of anything; they simply needed a change in leadership, which they got. Satya is drastically changing the culture and with it the business. I get there are people out there that will always have an ax to grind (you seem to be one of those) but if you wait 20 years to trust a business again, you'll be left behind with any improvements or optimizations that happen in the meantime. If Microsoft sustains its direction for a few more years at most, given the pace at which the industry they are in evolves, the legacy practices they had won't much matter.
- sametmax 7y ago
  The way you see things leads to the society of today, where big companies have powers close to the state, and very little accountability. If it's ok to accumulate immense wealth and power by misbehaving for 20 years, and just with switching a head and orienting PR, it's all forgiven, then why not keep doing it ?
- whydoineedthis 7y ago
  Left behind? I haven't been compelled to own or use a Microsoft product in 10 years. I would be surprised if it changed in the next 10.

PascLeRasc 7y ago

We're not wedded to these big tech companies. I don't know why we need to forgive them at all. Let's talk about smaller companies making interesting products that haven't betrayed our trust, like System76, Lulzbot, or Purism. There's a whole world of hardware and software out there.

naikrovek 7y ago
We don't need to forgive them, I personally just don't have the energy to remain angry at a company that has CLEARLY changed direction significantly. All of you are of course free to remain pissed off at anyone or anything you want. Just be mindful of why you're mad, and make sure once in a while that it's still worth being angry about.