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No, what seems illegal is forgoing vaccination. You want to forfeit a proven system to prevent widespread disease, then you should give up your right to live in
by overcast 8y ago
No, what seems illegal is forgoing vaccination. You want to forfeit a proven system to prevent widespread disease, then you should give up your right to live in the country. How vaccination isn't a mandatory thing by law, is beyond me.
- ghaff 8y agoOne can strongly favor vaccination (and favor prohibiting activities such as attending public schools absent vaccination without specific medical reasons) without favoring deportation for anyone who doesn't submit to forced vaccination--which I'm pretty sure would be unconstitutional for citizens.
- estebank 8y agoFunnily enough in order to get a green card you need to present proof of comprehensive vaccination. This is only done almost at the end of the process, at which point you would have been in the US for years.
- gnu8 8y agoWhere would you deport them to? Whatever your answer, I can assure you that the people over there don’t want measles people either.
- overcast 8y agoI guess the answer is that it should be required by law then? You either get vaccinated, or you go into permanent quarantine until you do. I don't understand how in this case, the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many.
- ccallebs 8y agoI appreciate your desire to solve the problem, and I'm certainly pro-vaccination. However, I really don't want to set another precedent of allowing the state to permanently detain people because of perceived public danger (real or otherwise). Imagine if this kind of thinking prevailed in the HIV hysteria of the 80's/90's. It's relatively easy to follow this approach to its logical conclusion. When you order authoritarianism, it's very likely you'll get it. And not simply in the places you want it.
- overcast 8y agoThe HIV scenario is not equivalent. It was new, people were frightened and ignorant. There is no cure, no vaccination. Measles is a well understood disease that had been eradicated. Openly putting others at risk because of some nonsense belief should not be tolerated. Are you good with a HIV+ person knowingly infecting others because it's their right to refuse antiviral medication? Measles and other highly contagious diseases can infect large populations without anyone knowing before it's too late.
- ccallebs 8y agoI don't disagree with you and I trust you to make the distinction between the two things. However, I don't trust lawmakers/police/military to have the same sense of nuance.
- Nasrudith 8y agoNot saying it was proportionate but we had colonies for infectious back then. Of course we were also idiots who used it mostly for Hansen's disease instead of far more virulent diseases like Smallpox because lepers were way more marginalizable as opposed to something which can infect anyone. Although stubborn cases like Typhoid Mary also got the same treatment.