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Elm gets plundered repeatedly before it ever reaches version 1.0. Is name-brand Elm still growing in adoption?

ivanceras 8y ago
Because elm is elegant. I have written web-app with elm on the client side and rust in the backend. It was great, except for duplication of code when serializing/deserializing json data when making API calls. With sauron, I save up a lot of duplicated codes, and gotta squeeze that webassembly performance as well.
- asdkhadsj 8y ago
  Do you have any experience with Sauron vs Yew? I'm quite interested in Yew due to the benchmark and that their code examples look similar to me. Yew also says Elm inspired. Since I don't know anything about Elm, I'm curious to see what about Sauron makes it more Elm-y than Yew.
Latty 8y ago
The main issue with Elm is the glacial development pace. I understand why it is the way it is (it shows in how well designed what is there is), but it really does hurt as someone who wants to adopt it.
- rickycook 8y ago
  some might say that’s a feature though!
childintime 8y ago
> Elm gets plundered repeatedly before it ever reaches version 1.0. I concur. Ever since Elm 0.17 [1], when Evan removed event streams and standardized on The Elm Architecture, Elm seems to have lost its way. Just saying as an interested outsider. [1] https://elm-lang.org/blog/farewell-to-frp https://elm-lang.org/blog/farewell-to-frp I presume it is a matter of perception: Elm is now perceived as a GUI toolkit rather than a language in its own right. Elm achieved simplicity and, ironically because of that, it is now plain easy to port its main ideas to other languages.
rtfeldman 8y ago
Yep! I'm writing this from Elm in the Spring, the 2nd of 4 dedicated Elm conferences in 2019. JS/TS continue to dwarf everything else, but it's possible that Elm is the most widely used JS alternative at this point. (Hard to know definitely though!)
- iLemming 8y ago
  > it's possible that Elm is the most widely used JS alternative at this point Cough. Cough. Clojurescript. Cough.
MagicPropmaker 8y ago
We're using Elm for our front-end UI. With Erlang in the backend (not Elixir). It's very reliable and predictable. I hope it succeeds.
worble 8y ago
I like to think Elm is the most influential web framework that no-one uses.

Because elm is elegant. I have written web-app with elm on the client side and rust in the backend. It was great, except for duplication of code when serializing/deserializing json data when making API calls. With sauron, I save up a lot of duplicated codes, and gotta squeeze that webassembly performance as well.

asdkhadsj 8y ago
Do you have any experience with Sauron vs Yew? I'm quite interested in Yew due to the benchmark and that their code examples look similar to me. Yew also says Elm inspired. Since I don't know anything about Elm, I'm curious to see what about Sauron makes it more Elm-y than Yew.

Latty 8y ago

The main issue with Elm is the glacial development pace. I understand why it is the way it is (it shows in how well designed what is there is), but it really does hurt as someone who wants to adopt it.

rickycook 8y ago
some might say that’s a feature though!

childintime 8y ago

> Elm gets plundered repeatedly before it ever reaches version 1.0. I concur. Ever since Elm 0.17 [1], when Evan removed event streams and standardized on The Elm Architecture, Elm seems to have lost its way. Just saying as an interested outsider. [1] https://elm-lang.org/blog/farewell-to-frp https://elm-lang.org/blog/farewell-to-frp I presume it is a matter of perception: Elm is now perceived as a GUI toolkit rather than a language in its own right. Elm achieved simplicity and, ironically because of that, it is now plain easy to port its main ideas to other languages.

rtfeldman 8y ago

Yep! I'm writing this from Elm in the Spring, the 2nd of 4 dedicated Elm conferences in 2019. JS/TS continue to dwarf everything else, but it's possible that Elm is the most widely used JS alternative at this point. (Hard to know definitely though!)

iLemming 8y ago
> it's possible that Elm is the most widely used JS alternative at this point Cough. Cough. Clojurescript. Cough.

MagicPropmaker 8y ago

We're using Elm for our front-end UI. With Erlang in the backend (not Elixir). It's very reliable and predictable. I hope it succeeds.

worble 8y ago

I like to think Elm is the most influential web framework that no-one uses.