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It's not nearly that simple. And the person you're responding to didn't even actually deny that saturated fat is unhealthy, why jump on them like that? Needles

It's not nearly that simple. And the person you're responding to didn't even actually deny that saturated fat is unhealthy, why jump on them like that? Needlessly inflammatory.

atomical 7y ago
You're being disingenuous. Please stop. > Margarine was preferred because it was thought that the saturated fat in butter was going to clog your arteries and kill you.
- tomhoward 7y ago
  You do seem unreasonable and unnecessarily combative in this subthread. I've had to read over it several times to figure out how your comments are appropriate replies, and I’m not seeing it. That commenter wasn't mounting an argument for a position on whether or not "saturated fat in butter was going to clog your arteries and kill you" - just explaining the thinking behind those who preferred margarine. But it's also not "established science" that "saturated fat is bad for health". If it were that simple, any food containing saturated fat would never appear in the "healthy in low-moderate quantities" section of a mainstream recommended diet chart. Clearly that's not the case, and clearly many experts have different things to say about this topic. So, please stop throwing around accusations of "science denial", when any person who engages seriously with this topic knows that it is still a matter of ongoing research and discussion.
  - atomical 7y ago
    You are incorrect and denying science as well. Trump uses the same logic to deny climate change. He says many experts disagree. Your opinion is not equal to fact. I'm sorry. Please stop being a science denier.
  - atomical 7y ago
    Trump uses the same logic to deny climate change.
    - tomhoward 7y ago
      This is an appallingly bad-faith style of discussion. You must know full well this terminology is used for its evocative link to holocaust denial. Not that it should make a difference to how you conduct yourself, but I’ve had cause to research this topic in order to get myself through serious health issues. So I know what it looks like when people are or aren’t engaging with this topic with honesty. It’s a deeply important topic that deserves better than crap like this, particularly from a longtime user of this site.
- keymone 7y ago
  Not only saturated fat isn’t bad but at worst neutral, but also LDL is not “bad” when measured as concentration, which is the main argument against sat fats on the page you linked. There is plenty of research on this topic.

It's not nearly that simple. And the person you're responding to didn't even actually deny that saturated fat is unhealthy, why jump on them like that? Needlessly inflammatory.

atomical 7y ago

You're being disingenuous. Please stop. > Margarine was preferred because it was thought that the saturated fat in butter was going to clog your arteries and kill you.

tomhoward 7y ago
You do seem unreasonable and unnecessarily combative in this subthread. I've had to read over it several times to figure out how your comments are appropriate replies, and I’m not seeing it. That commenter wasn't mounting an argument for a position on whether or not "saturated fat in butter was going to clog your arteries and kill you" - just explaining the thinking behind those who preferred margarine. But it's also not "established science" that "saturated fat is bad for health". If it were that simple, any food containing saturated fat would never appear in the "healthy in low-moderate quantities" section of a mainstream recommended diet chart. Clearly that's not the case, and clearly many experts have different things to say about this topic. So, please stop throwing around accusations of "science denial", when any person who engages seriously with this topic knows that it is still a matter of ongoing research and discussion.
- atomical 7y ago
  You are incorrect and denying science as well. Trump uses the same logic to deny climate change. He says many experts disagree. Your opinion is not equal to fact. I'm sorry. Please stop being a science denier.
- atomical 7y ago
  Trump uses the same logic to deny climate change.
  - tomhoward 7y ago
    This is an appallingly bad-faith style of discussion. You must know full well this terminology is used for its evocative link to holocaust denial. Not that it should make a difference to how you conduct yourself, but I’ve had cause to research this topic in order to get myself through serious health issues. So I know what it looks like when people are or aren’t engaging with this topic with honesty. It’s a deeply important topic that deserves better than crap like this, particularly from a longtime user of this site.
keymone 7y ago
Not only saturated fat isn’t bad but at worst neutral, but also LDL is not “bad” when measured as concentration, which is the main argument against sat fats on the page you linked. There is plenty of research on this topic.