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To me, the most salient and remarkable aspect of this story is the upheaval among the rest of the team. I’ve found, in leading my own company, that the right de
by netaustin 7y ago
To me, the most salient and remarkable aspect of this story is the upheaval among the rest of the team. I’ve found, in leading my own company, that the right decisions are typically met with comprehension and sometimes even relief. If you understand that CEOs are the last to know about problems, especially problems of culture, this makes intuitive sense. You, the CEO, sees something going sideways, you react, and the rest of the company is like, it’s about time you dealt with that!
But this sounds like the opposite problem, where the team doesn’t know that the managers have an issue. Such an incident would alarm me greatly, since I generally consider my team to be something of a Greek chorus, mourning my decisions before I even make them.
- m463 7y agoI read somewhere that Steve Jobs would figure out if a person was good or not by talking to the person's coworkers and saying the person sucks. If they vehemently denied it and stood up for the person, that was a sign the person was good. If they didn't, the person might indeed suck. sooo... if the rest of the team posted a statement and people resigned...
- humanrebar 7y agoThat's very interesting psychology, but it is horrible and psychopathic. Nobody go out and trash people just to see if it sticks. Please.
- olliej 7y agoSJ was good at his job, but I don’t think he is thought of as “being nice”. That said I feel there are better ways to find out if people are competent.
- m463 7y agoOf course not. But hearing from the SJ story how people behave when this sort of thing happens aligns with the staff's determination at the markup.
- onion2k 7y agoThat would only work if the people Steve Jobs talked to were happy to argue with Steve Jobs. I'm 99% sure my reaction to that situation would be "I thought X is great, but if Steve Jobs says he's not then I'm probably wrong. I'd better just agree with Steve."
- whenchamenia 7y agoHow do you ever give useful feedback with that attitude?
- onion2k 7y agoI'm not like that with everyone. Steve Jobs is a bit of a unique case.
- pnongrata 7y agoThis Jobs story sounds like some myth-building BS that shouldn't ever be applied in the real world.