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> When Gallup investigated the responses more closely, it found that being under 50, earning a low income and having a dim view of President Trump’s job perform
by spaceheretostay 7y ago
> When Gallup investigated the responses more closely, it found that being under 50, earning a low income and having a dim view of President Trump’s job performance were correlated with negative experiences among adults in the United States.
> But there still isn’t enough data to say for sure whether any of those factors were behind the feelings of stress, worry and anger.
> “We are seeing patterns that would point to a political explanation, or a polarization explanation, with the U.S. data, but can we say that definitively? No,” Ms. Ray said.
The United States is under attack from Russia. We are involved in a propaganda war, a real physical war attacking our election infrastructure, and the President encourages it to continue while cutting/removing our ability to secure our elections and defend our democracy. He states that he is intent on not leaving office peacefully in the future and that he likes China's one-party for life.
I get that this may not be conclusively proven to increase stress on Americans, but I would be _shocked_ if it were not a major contributing factor. Every single person I've spoken to IRL about the Trump-related-stress-and-depression concept eagerly agrees that this is weighing heavily on people in a very constant, deep and personal way.
Obviously, personal finances, job security, and other close things are likely equally or more important. But Trump has also eliminated many people's feelings of financial security or job security, as he has personally chosen to hold paychecks from a million people on a racist vendetta, directly removing those people's personal income while still demanding they work.
Surely it can be said that at least for some large portion of Americans, it is true that Trump's policies and behavior on the job _Are_ hurting us.
- tomschlick 7y ago> He states that he is intent on not leaving office peacefully in the future Source? > Every single person I've spoken to IRL about the Trump-related-stress-and-depression concept eagerly agrees that this is weighing heavily on people in a very constant, deep and personal way. Is it possible that that's the goal of the media right now? To make things seem so bad that they can swing political opinion? I mean look at this article. They focus on the negative but fail to mention in the headline that we also have the most positive experiences. That's framing and is very dangerous when done at scale.
- spaceheretostay 7y ago> Source? "I will keep you in suspense" is an obvious dogwhistle that he has no intent to obey the rule of law. https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/presidential-debate-highlights/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/presidential-debate-... There is also his former lawyer on the topic, "Cohen: fears no 'peaceful transition' if Trump loses in 2020" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-2020/cohen-fears-no-peaceful-transition-if-trump-loses-in-2020-idUSKCN1QG2ZR https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-2020/coh... > Is it possible that that's the goal of the media right now? To make things seem so bad that they can swing political opinion? I mean look at this article. They focus on the negative but fail to mention in the headline that we also have the most positive experiences. That's framing and is very dangerous when done at scale. No, it is not possible that this is the media. The President is directing a genocide and is upset that it is not progressing faster. This is not the media, it is a direct fact straight from the President and it is dangerous and bad. It is stressful for many many Americans. I would like to think all, but I understand not everyone cares about children being kept in cages and separated from their parents. Or about how the President talks about how using "machine guns at the border" would be "more effective" to accomplish his goals. It's not "the media". It's the President.
- tomschlick 7y agoSo your two sources are 1) Trump talking about conceding an election which he didn't lose. Even Hillary took until the next day to concede. 2) A disgraced lawyer who would have said anything to appease the house in that statement. Also his statement is opinion, and is obviously talking about recounts / lawsuits similar to the Al Gore / GWB election. Thinking the president would use force of any means is ridiculous. Edit: Generally editing your reply after I have replied is bad taste. > The President is directing a genocide and is upset that it is not progressing faster. Yeah I'm done talking with you, that is just a ridiculous line of thought backed by 0 facts.
- sctb 7y agoWe just asked yesterday that you stop the political battle. If you won't stop we'll ban the account, but we'd rather not, so please do stop? > Please don't use Hacker News primarily for political or ideological battle. This destroys intellectual curiosity, and we ban accounts that do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- pard68 7y agoTo these people I would probably say, the problem isn't Trump. The problem is the effects of a 24 hour news cycle coupled with social media. Another election cycle or two and he will be gone and the stress will remain. News agencies find a new stressor to focus on is all
- iron0013 7y agoWhat you said is so mild compared to the rhetoric deployed by right-wing HN commenters every day--few of whom get the same reprimand from the mods that you just got.
- spaceheretostay 7y agoI have noticed this as well.
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- sctb 7y agoWe don't see nearly everything—not even close. Please help us by flagging such inappropriate comments or emailing hn@ycombinator.com.
- iron0013 7y agoWill do, thank you.