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Productivity is a really good reason to fire people! (I'm not advocating for Amazon's labor practices, but the headline should read pro-Amazon)

toomuchtodo 8y ago
Depends on your metrics. If they're reasonable, cool. If they're abusive and unattainable, you're putting everyone to work in an environment where they are setup to fail. Not cool. I assume that's why "productivity" is in quotes in the headline, due to the common perception (which evidence leads us to believe is accurate) their success metrics in warehouses are unreasonable and borderline abusive. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/11/18260472/amazon-warehouse-workers-911-calls-suicide https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/11/18260472/amazon-ware... (Suicide attempts and mental breakdowns: 911 calls from Amazon warehouses reveal that some workers are struggling) https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/20/18103516/black-friday-cyber-monday-amazon-fulfillment-center https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/20/18103516/black-frid... (The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager) https://www.npr.org/2018/12/22/679546929/working-the-holidays-as-an-amazon-worker https://www.npr.org/2018/12/22/679546929/working-the-holiday... (Working The Holidays As An Amazon Worker) https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/17243026/amazon-warehouse-jobs-worker-conditions-bathroom-breaks https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/17243026/amazon-warehouse... (Amazon warehouse workers skip bathroom breaks to keep their jobs, says report)
gist 8y ago
> (I'm not advocating for Amazon's labor practices, but the headline should read pro-Amazon) Your view of 'amazon's labor practices is most likely gleaned from what you have read about them in stories which is most certainly slanted in one direction because it makes interesting reading. Kind of a 'where there is smoke there is fire' situation. I don't know where it is written that warehouse jobs have to be non stressful or easy and they shouldn't push you. If you think the job is to hard for you at Amazon then don't work there or for them. Do people complain that sign up to be firefighters that they have to run into burning buildings? No that is part of the job. [1] [1] Go ahead and figure out a way that 'no that's different' or 'no but that doesn't mean they need to assume all negatives and risks.
- maximilianroos 8y ago
  Not advocating != Advocating against

toomuchtodo 8y ago

Depends on your metrics. If they're reasonable, cool. If they're abusive and unattainable, you're putting everyone to work in an environment where they are setup to fail. Not cool. I assume that's why "productivity" is in quotes in the headline, due to the common perception (which evidence leads us to believe is accurate) their success metrics in warehouses are unreasonable and borderline abusive. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/11/18260472/amazon-warehouse-workers-911-calls-suicide https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/11/18260472/amazon-ware... (Suicide attempts and mental breakdowns: 911 calls from Amazon warehouses reveal that some workers are struggling) https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/20/18103516/black-friday-cyber-monday-amazon-fulfillment-center https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/20/18103516/black-frid... (The human costs of Black Friday, explained by a former Amazon warehouse manager) https://www.npr.org/2018/12/22/679546929/working-the-holidays-as-an-amazon-worker https://www.npr.org/2018/12/22/679546929/working-the-holiday... (Working The Holidays As An Amazon Worker) https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/17243026/amazon-warehouse-jobs-worker-conditions-bathroom-breaks https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/17243026/amazon-warehouse... (Amazon warehouse workers skip bathroom breaks to keep their jobs, says report)

gist 8y ago

> (I'm not advocating for Amazon's labor practices, but the headline should read pro-Amazon) Your view of 'amazon's labor practices is most likely gleaned from what you have read about them in stories which is most certainly slanted in one direction because it makes interesting reading. Kind of a 'where there is smoke there is fire' situation. I don't know where it is written that warehouse jobs have to be non stressful or easy and they shouldn't push you. If you think the job is to hard for you at Amazon then don't work there or for them. Do people complain that sign up to be firefighters that they have to run into burning buildings? No that is part of the job. [1] [1] Go ahead and figure out a way that 'no that's different' or 'no but that doesn't mean they need to assume all negatives and risks.

maximilianroos 8y ago
Not advocating != Advocating against