> My position is that it's definitely not just a government problem Sure. But no one said anything to the contrary. I said: Government employees get unjust le

> My position is that it's definitely not just a government problem Sure. But no one said anything to the contrary. I said: Government employees get unjust leniency compared to private enterprise when caught in unethical behavior. I then gave an example to back up my claim (with examples and high trust references) You posted, and continue to post: "But WHAT ABOUT private sector misheavior, private sector does bad too!" And: "But WHAT ABOUT the good government employees, most are good" "But WHAT ABOUT the privatization of things that are going wrong" Which are excellent statements to be made on their own. I actually happen to agree with you, I dislike a lot of privatization that is happening. But they are a poor reply to a point that doesn't mention anything about private vs public. Whataboutism has the following pattern: Person 1 posts a fact: leniency toward government official misbehavior. Person 2 posts a fact: private enterprise is less transparent than government enterprise. The fact doesn't contradict the first directly, but it came across as a rebuttal. It's throwing true facts out there that sort of contradict a point without having to actually address the point being made or take a stance or define a clear point which could then receive a counterpoint. A counter point to be made could be: Well, I believe government employee misconduct is more easily spotted and therefore a lenient treatment might be justified. See? That's an actual counter point. I can then say: 'Well, let's look at the statistics of corruption in each and convictions and we can prove the point one way or another'. But what you posted... can never be answered in a way that furthers the finding of the truth. It is 'anti government people' vs 'pro government people'. It's tribalistic, many people here seem to have placed me in the anti government field because I posted 1 thing that reflects badly on public servants. I'm neither pro gov nor anti gov and I'd appreciate it both parties could find a place to battle it out that wasn't my point, which neither supports nor disproves either side. My point is that this (unjust sector leniency) is an issue and it should be more widely known. You are welcome to answer with a counter point. I'm pro-dialectics and will change my mind if given good points with proper references or logical constructs.