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Location data, cameras (clipboard metaphor): I’d rather the the government have tight control over such data. Revamp cell phone tech to prevent stingray/rogue c

Location data, cameras (clipboard metaphor): I’d rather the the government have tight control over such data. Revamp cell phone tech to prevent stingray/rogue cell tower usage, legally prevent location data from being resold without tight auditing through the NSA and related agencies. Similar for camera data. Bulk collection ok: yes. In home, I don’t have a POTS/PSTN service, echo or similar. But with a justified warrant, if there’s a remote mic to activate that will help a criminal case, it’s fair game. Bulk collection ok: no. In vehicle, the microphone should be available but similarly audited to prevent abuse or bulk surveillance. Bulk collection ok: no. Banking records: similarly, not clear on the analogy of a “passerby” having access. The records exist, they should be available for investigations when needed by authorized parties. Bulk collection ok: yes. The new reality is that privacy will evaporate due to the commoditization of tech that facilities surveillance. It’s a question of who has the power and whether they have your best interests at heart. I don’t believe the Hollywood Snowden propaganda. Speaking to military folks the NSA doesn’t care much about what most people are up to. Everyone knows they used their systems to fight domestic crime under the radar (think: Person of Interest TV show) which I personally support(ed) in many cases. Surveillance is necessary but does need to be put into entrusted hands. I trust the NSA more than most private interests. Snowden simply showed that you can’t blindly trust groups of people in an organization as they trusted him. They will rebuild despite his malice.

holyend 7y ago
This was the flagged top level post by me (aside: censorship of my viewpoint is a real problem, I didn’t say anything to merit having the comment censored): Personally, the whole “Fuck the NSA” attitude elicits a vision of some liberal tech elite fancying themselves as true digital thugs, running the digital streets and wielding more power than the NSA had just a decade ago. My personal anecdote is that the social situation deteriorated significantly after Snowden in terms of digitally facilitated social tribalism. Bulk collection of phone records is surely a bit of an anachronism in 2019, since anyone with criminal intent will be fully cognizant thanks to Snowden and team. More generally, many people, including all criminals of average or better intelligence, benefited greatly from Snowden’s disclosures. Widespread strong encryption has made surveillance far more difficult. Clue the public into an unwitting shell game. It’s a fun time to be the mouse in the cat and mouse game. Private interests with their own big data naturally will be inclined to do a freestyle rap verse on the “Fuck the NSA” EP, on limited edition vinyl. Easy to forget that the digital big boy playing field is diverse. It’s a free country, after all. Naturally this comment will be downvoted mainly for difference in personal beliefs. Also, if Snowden doesn’t tweet about this to celebrate the victory, perhaps he’s concerned that his time in Russia is running out and that he should hedge his bets taking such responsibility.
holyend 7y ago
Why the downvote? I should be able to express my viewpoint without being penalized.

holyend 7y ago

This was the flagged top level post by me (aside: censorship of my viewpoint is a real problem, I didn’t say anything to merit having the comment censored): Personally, the whole “Fuck the NSA” attitude elicits a vision of some liberal tech elite fancying themselves as true digital thugs, running the digital streets and wielding more power than the NSA had just a decade ago. My personal anecdote is that the social situation deteriorated significantly after Snowden in terms of digitally facilitated social tribalism. Bulk collection of phone records is surely a bit of an anachronism in 2019, since anyone with criminal intent will be fully cognizant thanks to Snowden and team. More generally, many people, including all criminals of average or better intelligence, benefited greatly from Snowden’s disclosures. Widespread strong encryption has made surveillance far more difficult. Clue the public into an unwitting shell game. It’s a fun time to be the mouse in the cat and mouse game. Private interests with their own big data naturally will be inclined to do a freestyle rap verse on the “Fuck the NSA” EP, on limited edition vinyl. Easy to forget that the digital big boy playing field is diverse. It’s a free country, after all. Naturally this comment will be downvoted mainly for difference in personal beliefs. Also, if Snowden doesn’t tweet about this to celebrate the victory, perhaps he’s concerned that his time in Russia is running out and that he should hedge his bets taking such responsibility.

holyend 7y ago

Why the downvote? I should be able to express my viewpoint without being penalized.