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I'm amazed Ireland is so low on the bullshit scale. I feel like we're amazingly good at it. Actually I would say that the country is full of quite subtle bullsh

I'm amazed Ireland is so low on the bullshit scale. I feel like we're amazingly good at it. Actually I would say that the country is full of quite subtle bullshitters. I think they gamed the test.

myth_drannon 8y ago
Immigrants scored higher on the bullshit scale(survival tactic?) and accordingly countries with high immigration rates scored higher as well.
bigred100 8y ago
I imagine a good bullshitter would also be a good antibullshitter (wait for a situation where one could conceivably bullshit, and, if someone tries, press them in a way that will reveal what they’re doing if they are bullshitting, and be harmless if they aren’t)
- logfromblammo 8y ago
  I also imagine the converse. A good antibullshitter can be a passable bullshitter. If you know which patterns peg your bogometer, you can avoid using them yourself in situations where you need to be believed. For instance, I know that logorrhea, babbling, and "the gallop" are strong indicators of deception. The bull can always shit faster than the farmer can shovel it. So when I want to be believed, I could pause after every point, and maybe take some strawmen from a partially-scripted faux-skeptic conspirator so I can knock them down.
jeanlucas 8y ago
Hey, it's quite common to each country to see themselves as the best in some things that everyone have. I've been around South America and each country has a word for "McGyverism" because they see themselves as resourceful. The funny part? Every one of them say they are the only one with a word just for it. Same goes with bullshit, people in Rio de Janeiro think they're best in bullshiterry in the world. NYers claim the same, and Chinese street vendors in Shenzhen area too. It's just normal for human groups to see themselves this ways and even take proud of it
cuspycode 8y ago
I have only visited Ireland as a tourist, and my impression was that the Irish very much like to tell stories to anyone who will listen, or even to random innocent tourists who are waiting on a train platform. Telling stories is not bullshitting however, but maybe this is a cultural tradition that makes the people aware of bullshitting in a way that affects the test scores?
senderista 8y ago
I think that’s actually a stereotype about the Irish, at least in the US.

I'm amazed Ireland is so low on the bullshit scale. I feel like we're amazingly good at it. Actually I would say that the country is full of quite subtle bullshitters. I think they gamed the test.

myth_drannon 8y ago

Immigrants scored higher on the bullshit scale(survival tactic?) and accordingly countries with high immigration rates scored higher as well.

bigred100 8y ago

I imagine a good bullshitter would also be a good antibullshitter (wait for a situation where one could conceivably bullshit, and, if someone tries, press them in a way that will reveal what they’re doing if they are bullshitting, and be harmless if they aren’t)

logfromblammo 8y ago
I also imagine the converse. A good antibullshitter can be a passable bullshitter. If you know which patterns peg your bogometer, you can avoid using them yourself in situations where you need to be believed. For instance, I know that logorrhea, babbling, and "the gallop" are strong indicators of deception. The bull can always shit faster than the farmer can shovel it. So when I want to be believed, I could pause after every point, and maybe take some strawmen from a partially-scripted faux-skeptic conspirator so I can knock them down.

jeanlucas 8y ago

Hey, it's quite common to each country to see themselves as the best in some things that everyone have. I've been around South America and each country has a word for "McGyverism" because they see themselves as resourceful. The funny part? Every one of them say they are the only one with a word just for it. Same goes with bullshit, people in Rio de Janeiro think they're best in bullshiterry in the world. NYers claim the same, and Chinese street vendors in Shenzhen area too. It's just normal for human groups to see themselves this ways and even take proud of it

cuspycode 8y ago

I have only visited Ireland as a tourist, and my impression was that the Irish very much like to tell stories to anyone who will listen, or even to random innocent tourists who are waiting on a train platform. Telling stories is not bullshitting however, but maybe this is a cultural tradition that makes the people aware of bullshitting in a way that affects the test scores?

senderista 8y ago

I think that’s actually a stereotype about the Irish, at least in the US.