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News: dies after being run over by a Tesla in autopilot mode. Was carrying a weird printout. Tesla will not pay anything: “he was deliberately hiding from came

News: dies after being run over by a Tesla in autopilot mode. Was carrying a weird printout. Tesla will not pay anything: “he was deliberately hiding from cameras”.

sundvor 8y ago
If you're paranoid enough to wear that kind of clothing, you'd probably be paranoid enough to assume most drivers are distracted morons as well - and add accordingly. (I still found the comment amusing!)
- pfortuny 8y ago
  Well, yes, possibly. However, it may turn out to be a canvas of "art", who knows?
- yumraj 8y ago
  I didn't find any paranoia in the parent/above comment. I think it is a very realistic possibility. Many auto pilots, certainly Tesla's, work by using cameras. And, if you do fool cameras then the car might indeed kill you. Hell, they have a hard time keeping in the lane already - a couple of people have already died. Imagine what will happen if you fool it - OOPSE And, if it goes to court, whoever has more expensive lawyer wins. Also, just because someone's paranoid doesn't mean they're wrong.
  - sundvor 8y ago
    My point was that if you're a certain level of paranoid then you might also be above average aware of your surroundings - so it wouldn't matter if a self driving system went awry, or someone was on their phone.
- edgarvaldes 8y ago
  >If you're paranoid enough to wear that kind of clothing The interesting thing is, for me: what if the printout is not made with the specific purpose of avoid recognition, just a a weird, colorful, hippie cloth and garments that AI struggle with.
m00dy 8y ago
hahaha :) you are funny
thomas-st 8y ago
That's my main worry with Tesla not using LIDAR as a backup. Sure, the image recognition will work in almost all the cases, but occasionally (hopefully very rarely) there is going to be a pattern that it might not recognize (either deliberate by an attacker, or occurring naturally).

News: dies after being run over by a Tesla in autopilot mode. Was carrying a weird printout. Tesla will not pay anything: “he was deliberately hiding from cameras”.

sundvor 8y ago

If you're paranoid enough to wear that kind of clothing, you'd probably be paranoid enough to assume most drivers are distracted morons as well - and add accordingly. (I still found the comment amusing!)

pfortuny 8y ago
Well, yes, possibly. However, it may turn out to be a canvas of "art", who knows?
yumraj 8y ago
I didn't find any paranoia in the parent/above comment. I think it is a very realistic possibility. Many auto pilots, certainly Tesla's, work by using cameras. And, if you do fool cameras then the car might indeed kill you. Hell, they have a hard time keeping in the lane already - a couple of people have already died. Imagine what will happen if you fool it - OOPSE And, if it goes to court, whoever has more expensive lawyer wins. Also, just because someone's paranoid doesn't mean they're wrong.
- sundvor 8y ago
  My point was that if you're a certain level of paranoid then you might also be above average aware of your surroundings - so it wouldn't matter if a self driving system went awry, or someone was on their phone.
edgarvaldes 8y ago
>If you're paranoid enough to wear that kind of clothing The interesting thing is, for me: what if the printout is not made with the specific purpose of avoid recognition, just a a weird, colorful, hippie cloth and garments that AI struggle with.

m00dy 8y ago

hahaha :) you are funny

thomas-st 8y ago

That's my main worry with Tesla not using LIDAR as a backup. Sure, the image recognition will work in almost all the cases, but occasionally (hopefully very rarely) there is going to be a pattern that it might not recognize (either deliberate by an attacker, or occurring naturally).