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Isn't it just ludicrous, using the term “AI” for a piece of technology that can't even see straight, let alone “think”.

by tempodox 8y ago

gtirloni 8y ago
I think the saying goes like this: if it works it's just machine learning, if it fails it's AI.
- Ftuuky 8y ago
  Machine learning is usually written in Python, AI is written in PowerPoint.
  - ansgri 8y ago
    Then what's get written in C++?
    - whenchamenia 8y ago
      Python was written in C. :)
valine 8y ago
Most of the things people call AI isn't actually AI. Buzz words just help with funding, and at the same time the projects are undoubtedly useful so everyone just goes with it. News sites get more clicks and ad revenue for writing articles on AI, researchers get funding, and the world gets better image classifiers.
- blantonl 8y ago
  Exactly. Just look at IBM Watson. That project started as some machine learning technology until the huge enterprise marketing arm got ahold of it, and then they began repositioning what are essentially shell scripts and regular expressions parsing data into "Watson XXX Vertical AI"
- wool_gather 8y ago
  There's another way of looking at it. Given that we accept a spectrum of intelligence in biological forms -- i.e., a spider is not as intelligent as a sheep is not as intelligent as a crow is not as intelligent as a human -- why wouldn't we also have a spectrum for A.I.?
  - stOneskull 8y ago
    you are right. there should be.
pjc50 8y ago
Humans and some animals are also vulnerable to optical illusions. The unusual thing about this category of "AI optical illusion" is that it's nonlocal - having the patch in the frame defeats recognition of other objects.
- wongarsu 8y ago
  Also while humans experience many optical illusions we are quite good at using temporal information and knowledge about how objects behave. We often flag our own observations as implausible and try to get a view from a different angle to defeat the illusion. Most AI can't do that, simply because it has no possibility to get a second perspective on the same situation.
  - dchichkov 8y ago
    Quite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=youtu.be
Nasrudith 8y ago
AI is a much abused term but there are unresolved practically philosophical questions about the brain. If there is no "special sauce" and our brains are just very large neural networks that have what we see as intelligence is an emergent property would we be truly "thinking" by those standards? We also suffer from adversarial patterns - they are called camouflage and optical illusions. Different from the ones that affect machines of course.
driverdan 8y ago
I hate the abuse of the term AI too. It's not AI. AI doesn't exist yet. It's machine learning.

Isn't it just ludicrous, using the term “AI” for a piece of technology that can't even see straight, let alone “think”.

gtirloni 8y ago

I think the saying goes like this: if it works it's just machine learning, if it fails it's AI.

Ftuuky 8y ago
Machine learning is usually written in Python, AI is written in PowerPoint.
- ansgri 8y ago
  Then what's get written in C++?
  - whenchamenia 8y ago
    Python was written in C. :)

valine 8y ago

Most of the things people call AI isn't actually AI. Buzz words just help with funding, and at the same time the projects are undoubtedly useful so everyone just goes with it. News sites get more clicks and ad revenue for writing articles on AI, researchers get funding, and the world gets better image classifiers.

blantonl 8y ago
Exactly. Just look at IBM Watson. That project started as some machine learning technology until the huge enterprise marketing arm got ahold of it, and then they began repositioning what are essentially shell scripts and regular expressions parsing data into "Watson XXX Vertical AI"
wool_gather 8y ago
There's another way of looking at it. Given that we accept a spectrum of intelligence in biological forms -- i.e., a spider is not as intelligent as a sheep is not as intelligent as a crow is not as intelligent as a human -- why wouldn't we also have a spectrum for A.I.?
- stOneskull 8y ago
  you are right. there should be.

pjc50 8y ago

Humans and some animals are also vulnerable to optical illusions. The unusual thing about this category of "AI optical illusion" is that it's nonlocal - having the patch in the frame defeats recognition of other objects.

wongarsu 8y ago
Also while humans experience many optical illusions we are quite good at using temporal information and knowledge about how objects behave. We often flag our own observations as implausible and try to get a view from a different angle to defeat the illusion. Most AI can't do that, simply because it has no possibility to get a second perspective on the same situation.
- dchichkov 8y ago
  Quite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo&feature=youtu.be

Nasrudith 8y ago

AI is a much abused term but there are unresolved practically philosophical questions about the brain. If there is no "special sauce" and our brains are just very large neural networks that have what we see as intelligence is an emergent property would we be truly "thinking" by those standards? We also suffer from adversarial patterns - they are called camouflage and optical illusions. Different from the ones that affect machines of course.

driverdan 8y ago

I hate the abuse of the term AI too. It's not AI. AI doesn't exist yet. It's machine learning.