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You seem to have missed folding, which is both the most labor-intensive part and the one OP was about. Also, who nags the kids (or other adults) to do their par

You seem to have missed folding, which is both the most labor-intensive part and the one OP was about. Also, who nags the kids (or other adults) to do their part? That's work too.

belorn 8y ago
If someone want their clothes folded they fold them when picking them up from the clean pile. Not going to comment what parents with children should do, at what ages and so on. That is just begging to get into a discussion where everyone just disagree with each other.
- notacoward 8y ago
  > If someone want their clothes folded they fold them when picking them up from the clean pile It's still work, isn't it? When it gets done is irrelevant. My larger point is that your "it's not that hard" is only true in a very narrow set of circumstances that I'm skeptical exist even for you. Many problems seem simple if you constrain the variables tightly enough. But in the real world, not everyone dresses exclusively in clothes that don't wrinkle if left alone after drying, or work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable. And anyone who claims that every family member including children automatically does their part in a complex series of steps without any goading at all is either deceiving themselves or trying to deceive others. The discipline is being enforced, and we don't all have the privilege of turning a blind eye while partners do it.
  - return1 8y ago
    > I'm skeptical exist even for you. > work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable. > or trying to deceive others. looks like someone needs to work on their argumentation
  - belorn 8y ago
    Similar to people in other comments, I do not normally fold my clothes. It is my choice and thus optional, which was my point. How much work a person spend washing depending on optional choices. > work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable That is a bit offensive. Not everyone is a model and earn money depending on their appearance. There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model.
    - notacoward 8y ago
      > There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model You're the only one who brought up models, so the dichotomy is yours.

You seem to have missed folding, which is both the most labor-intensive part and the one OP was about. Also, who nags the kids (or other adults) to do their part? That's work too.

belorn 8y ago

If someone want their clothes folded they fold them when picking them up from the clean pile. Not going to comment what parents with children should do, at what ages and so on. That is just begging to get into a discussion where everyone just disagree with each other.

notacoward 8y ago
> If someone want their clothes folded they fold them when picking them up from the clean pile It's still work, isn't it? When it gets done is irrelevant. My larger point is that your "it's not that hard" is only true in a very narrow set of circumstances that I'm skeptical exist even for you. Many problems seem simple if you constrain the variables tightly enough. But in the real world, not everyone dresses exclusively in clothes that don't wrinkle if left alone after drying, or work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable. And anyone who claims that every family member including children automatically does their part in a complex series of steps without any goading at all is either deceiving themselves or trying to deceive others. The discipline is being enforced, and we don't all have the privilege of turning a blind eye while partners do it.
- return1 8y ago
  > I'm skeptical exist even for you. > work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable. > or trying to deceive others. looks like someone needs to work on their argumentation
- belorn 8y ago
  Similar to people in other comments, I do not normally fold my clothes. It is my choice and thus optional, which was my point. How much work a person spend washing depending on optional choices. > work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable That is a bit offensive. Not everyone is a model and earn money depending on their appearance. There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model.
  - notacoward 8y ago
    > There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model You're the only one who brought up models, so the dichotomy is yours.