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I think it's more likely that most everyone the NSA would be interested in snooping on is aware they're snooping and has changed how they communicate and moved
by fooey 7y ago
I think it's more likely that most everyone the NSA would be interested in snooping on is aware they're snooping and has changed how they communicate and moved to encryption.
The signal to noise ratio has to be completely ridiculous, to the point that it's no longer a justifiable effort.
- closeparen 7y agoMiranda warnings have been pop culture for decades, yet criminals keep confessing in interview rooms. Threats to public safety tend not to be firing on all cylinders, thankfully.
- culturestate 7y agoFor some reason, it’s often the people who should shut up the most who just can’t shut up. The ability to stop yourself from talking is an underrated skill.
- qubex 7y agoLooks nervously in the general direction of the current President.
- wallace_f 7y agoI don't think it's that simple. Intimidation and coercion are powerful motivators. The Innocence Project found 25% of people proven innocent, by DNA evidence, actually provided confessions or self-incriminating statements. I worry about what other behind-the-door tactics are used. Some might even be official abuses of power, such as gag orders, which are already being used for what the WSJ called "political persecutions in Wisconsin,"(1) it wouldn't surprise me. >Threats to public safety This is what I'm worried about here. 0-https://www.innocencecanada.com/causes-of-wrongful-convictions/ https://www.innocencecanada.com/causes-of-wrongful-convictio... 1-https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/04/wisonsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/04/wisonsins-shame-i-tho...
- cosmodisk 7y agoGet an average person into a room, interrogate for hour or days,if necessary, and ultimately, the vast majority would confess to anything just for the sake of ending it. There are many tricks in a hat to do so+ decades of experience within police and other institutions.
- davvolun 7y agoI think you're talking about a different class of problems, though. The NSA is going to be focused on larger, sophisticated groups; Chinese government intrusions, multi-state-sponsored terrorism, coordinated Russian attempts to influence U.S. elections. Not the type of thing that's going to get caught in a police interview.
- closeparen 7y agoOf course there are some sophisticated adversaries who were probably too smart to use phones even before Snowden, but I’ll venture a guess that the typical terrorism conspiracy is closer in sophistication to a street gang than to the KGB. At least, if there were a clear link between a terrorist plot and and institution full of taxpayer-funded career spooks, it would not be terrorism, just war.
- Tsubasachan 7y agoEncryption is nice but don't forget that every American university or company has been infiltrated by the NSA.
- killjoywashere 7y agoAnd the Chinese, and the Russians, probably some Iranians in there too.
- tssva 7y agoYou left out the Israelis who have had an extensive espionage operation in the US for decades.
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