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Microtransactions are about user behaviour and tech. Your exploratory attempts with a browser plugin do not sound comparable to what Brave is attempting. Atte

Microtransactions are about user behaviour and tech. Your exploratory attempts with a browser plugin do not sound comparable to what Brave is attempting. Attempting to dismiss Brave by begging the question isn't convincing: "Brave won't succeed and isn't revolutionary if we assume the revolutionary bits won't succeed." Claiming - after your initial uninformed and dismissive commentary - to now be an honest and good-faith participant is curious. Innovating on a new utility-scale ad / content model in a multi-sided market with a new browser relying on a new cryptoeconomic infrastructure which if successful threatens huge, well-funded industry participants is certainly a challenge. But the Brave team are pretty peerless when looking at the needed skillset, the moment in time for an industry-wide shift seems to be here and the mix of incentives: battery life, speed, memory, privacy, user growth pool tokens for donations, future content payment options, on-device learning model, zero-knowledge proof privacy, cross-device syncing etc are very compelling.

manigandham 7y ago
Unlike you I use my real name here. I'm honest, straightforward, informed, and will state whatever commentary I want, backed up with over a decade of experience in advertising and tech. Skip the personal jabs and put up an actual argument. >> Microtransactions are about user behaviour and tech. Cool. As I said, the tech part is easy and has been solved plenty of times before. What's the solution to user behavior? Brave doesn't have one. >> Innovating on a new utility-scale ad / content model in a multi-sided market with a new browser relying on a new cryptoeconomic infrastructure These are buzzwords. Nobody cares. I analyze based on the fundamental principles: An ad network is not new. Microtransactions are not new. Combining them is not new. Brave claims ads are overrun by middlemen and yet is a just another middleman. BAT is useless in the real world where advertisers and publishers are, and exchanging crypto for currency is more taxes and middlemen. Brave claims to stop fraud but has no counter. Measuring attention accurately is an unsolved problem and only made harder when it's decentralized and hackable. Ad fraud isn't because of opacity in adtech, it's because of a lack of consequences, something Brave again has no answer for. If you want to claim you're revolutionary but yet have no new business model, no plan on changing user behavior, and use buzzword-laden descriptions, then yes there's a high chance it's not going to work. Of course anything can happen and I welcome it if it's successful, but I really don't care either way.
- justsee 7y ago
  You're a competitor heavily invested in the current ad-tech ecosystem casting shade on a competitive model by relying on a bunch of mischaracterisations and false assertions. Knowing this and re-reading your contributions (and particularly this last one) suggests there's no useful debate to be had here.
  - manigandham 7y ago
    That's not an argument. Yet again you post from an anonymous account about my personal character instead of debating the actual points raised. You're also incorrect because I don't compete with Brave and have no vested interest in adtech. I actually spent time and money on regulation and our marketing SaaS works the same regardless of environment. Almost all of your comments on this page consist of you telling other people that they are mischaracterizing while offering no clear arguments of your own.

manigandham 7y ago

Unlike you I use my real name here. I'm honest, straightforward, informed, and will state whatever commentary I want, backed up with over a decade of experience in advertising and tech. Skip the personal jabs and put up an actual argument. >> Microtransactions are about user behaviour and tech. Cool. As I said, the tech part is easy and has been solved plenty of times before. What's the solution to user behavior? Brave doesn't have one. >> Innovating on a new utility-scale ad / content model in a multi-sided market with a new browser relying on a new cryptoeconomic infrastructure These are buzzwords. Nobody cares. I analyze based on the fundamental principles: An ad network is not new. Microtransactions are not new. Combining them is not new. Brave claims ads are overrun by middlemen and yet is a just another middleman. BAT is useless in the real world where advertisers and publishers are, and exchanging crypto for currency is more taxes and middlemen. Brave claims to stop fraud but has no counter. Measuring attention accurately is an unsolved problem and only made harder when it's decentralized and hackable. Ad fraud isn't because of opacity in adtech, it's because of a lack of consequences, something Brave again has no answer for. If you want to claim you're revolutionary but yet have no new business model, no plan on changing user behavior, and use buzzword-laden descriptions, then yes there's a high chance it's not going to work. Of course anything can happen and I welcome it if it's successful, but I really don't care either way.

justsee 7y ago
You're a competitor heavily invested in the current ad-tech ecosystem casting shade on a competitive model by relying on a bunch of mischaracterisations and false assertions. Knowing this and re-reading your contributions (and particularly this last one) suggests there's no useful debate to be had here.
- manigandham 7y ago
  That's not an argument. Yet again you post from an anonymous account about my personal character instead of debating the actual points raised. You're also incorrect because I don't compete with Brave and have no vested interest in adtech. I actually spent time and money on regulation and our marketing SaaS works the same regardless of environment. Almost all of your comments on this page consist of you telling other people that they are mischaracterizing while offering no clear arguments of your own.