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It seems uncontested that this company is doing some good, whether or not that good is outweighed by the bad. I'm unclear on the net effect, and not really maki

It seems uncontested that this company is doing some good, whether or not that good is outweighed by the bad. I'm unclear on the net effect, and not really making a claim; I tried to be clear about that near the end of my prior comment. If, hypothetically, the bad outweighs the good, I have no disagreement with you. But in the other hypothetical, where the good outweighs the bad, it seems like you're letting perfection be the enemy of improvement. Just because we can imagine a better system doesn't mean we should tear down an existing one that has some problems before beginning to implement a replacement. I would be glad to see a program with all of the good and less of the bad outcompete this one, even if this one has a net positive effect in the mean time. “You never change things by fighting against the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.” --Buckminster Fuller

munk-a 8y ago
Sorry to clarify - I'm not rejecting the idea of vocation as a supporting treatment to addiction. I, thankfully, have never had to deal with it in myself or a loved one, I am stating that if their innovation is beneficial - great, but now they need to shape up and stop abusing their patients - the money needs to go into their clients hands along so that the incentive to push this vocational opportunity too the point of abuse is removed. So I agree that perfection is the enemy of the good in innovation, but it's been innovated so now it's time to incrementally improve the system if it's one that works. In this case unfortunately the company has been at it for more than twenty years, so they have refused to work to improving the system and instead have carried on with greedy exploitation which is a well warranted reason for punishment for those individuals. Also, my apology if my statement seemed directed at you, it was not intended that way. I am quite serious about labour rights having worked in the gaming industry and my passion may have overflown.

munk-a 8y ago

Sorry to clarify - I'm not rejecting the idea of vocation as a supporting treatment to addiction. I, thankfully, have never had to deal with it in myself or a loved one, I am stating that if their innovation is beneficial - great, but now they need to shape up and stop abusing their patients - the money needs to go into their clients hands along so that the incentive to push this vocational opportunity too the point of abuse is removed. So I agree that perfection is the enemy of the good in innovation, but it's been innovated so now it's time to incrementally improve the system if it's one that works. In this case unfortunately the company has been at it for more than twenty years, so they have refused to work to improving the system and instead have carried on with greedy exploitation which is a well warranted reason for punishment for those individuals. Also, my apology if my statement seemed directed at you, it was not intended that way. I am quite serious about labour rights having worked in the gaming industry and my passion may have overflown.