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>370 miles of range, Autopilot, and the Supercharger network >Where will Tesla be in a few years if/when other manufacturers catch up with that? wouldnt that

>370 miles of range, Autopilot, and the Supercharger network >Where will Tesla be in a few years if/when other manufacturers catch up with that? wouldnt that be highly dependent on teslas cash burn and desperate cash grabs to survive the next quarter? in a few years you should hope to still retain some form of autopilot, maybe the supercharger network is shared/sold off, 370 miles of range? battery tech isnt improving so much but usually battery life drops

DarmokJalad1701 8y ago
> usually battery life drops Tests have shown that is not really that big of a factor. E.g. https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/28/350000-miles-in-a-tesla-model-x-just-18000-in-maintenance/ https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/28/350000-miles-in-a-tesla... https://electrek.co/2017/09/04/how-tesla-model-s-holds-up-time/ https://electrek.co/2017/09/04/how-tesla-model-s-holds-up-ti...
- hi5eyes 8y ago
  I expected replies to my comment with links to those sites, you do know how hard they shill tesla right? only recently elons been reeing at the very author of that elektrik article https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120820597347377152 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120820597347377152 >@FredericLambert Also, how did you manage to get shamed into being de facto anti-Tesla by social media trolls. Jeez … but.. im sure the numbers are thoroughly researched...
  - Diederich 8y ago
    Well, here is one bit of data then. The Tesla model S 100D I bought in December 2017 now has over 17,000 miles on it, with 95% of those miles fast supercharged. My max range has declined 2 miles. That's well under 1%, which is especially impressive given that most battery capability loss happens in the beginning of it's lifespan. How? Well, I suppose the battery management software and hardware is as advanced as is claimed.
kylecordes 8y ago
> supercharger network is shared/sold off Selling the supercharger network to a separate company, and enabling it to serve all EVs, seems like an obviously great idea. Rebrand it from "Tesla Supercharger" to “Supercharger". Tesla cars can stiull be sold as compatible with “the Supercharger network”. I'm not a financial modeling kind of person, but I suspect such a beast could sell for quite a lot of money, strengthening Tesla's finances. Perhaps one of the gigantic oil companies that owns/franchises a gigantic chain of gas stations would like to stake out a leading claim on EV charging, those folks have plenty of money. It would also further Tesla's stated goal of accelerating the transition to EV's or whatever. Of course there are downsides, giving up this proprietary advantage. Still, that downside versus retiring some risk seems like a nice trade-off.
- hi5eyes 8y ago
  >could sell for quite a lot of money, strengthening Tesla's finances yes a trustworthy company run by a well regarded ceo that could raise money tesla? not so optimistic. until tesla finds significant backing they're just going to keep playing the desperate cash pump game im all for it tbh, its hella funny

DarmokJalad1701 8y ago

> usually battery life drops Tests have shown that is not really that big of a factor. E.g. https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/28/350000-miles-in-a-tesla-model-x-just-18000-in-maintenance/ https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/28/350000-miles-in-a-tesla... https://electrek.co/2017/09/04/how-tesla-model-s-holds-up-time/ https://electrek.co/2017/09/04/how-tesla-model-s-holds-up-ti...

hi5eyes 8y ago
I expected replies to my comment with links to those sites, you do know how hard they shill tesla right? only recently elons been reeing at the very author of that elektrik article https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120820597347377152 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120820597347377152 >@FredericLambert Also, how did you manage to get shamed into being de facto anti-Tesla by social media trolls. Jeez … but.. im sure the numbers are thoroughly researched...
- Diederich 8y ago
  Well, here is one bit of data then. The Tesla model S 100D I bought in December 2017 now has over 17,000 miles on it, with 95% of those miles fast supercharged. My max range has declined 2 miles. That's well under 1%, which is especially impressive given that most battery capability loss happens in the beginning of it's lifespan. How? Well, I suppose the battery management software and hardware is as advanced as is claimed.

kylecordes 8y ago

> supercharger network is shared/sold off Selling the supercharger network to a separate company, and enabling it to serve all EVs, seems like an obviously great idea. Rebrand it from "Tesla Supercharger" to “Supercharger". Tesla cars can stiull be sold as compatible with “the Supercharger network”. I'm not a financial modeling kind of person, but I suspect such a beast could sell for quite a lot of money, strengthening Tesla's finances. Perhaps one of the gigantic oil companies that owns/franchises a gigantic chain of gas stations would like to stake out a leading claim on EV charging, those folks have plenty of money. It would also further Tesla's stated goal of accelerating the transition to EV's or whatever. Of course there are downsides, giving up this proprietary advantage. Still, that downside versus retiring some risk seems like a nice trade-off.

hi5eyes 8y ago
>could sell for quite a lot of money, strengthening Tesla's finances yes a trustworthy company run by a well regarded ceo that could raise money tesla? not so optimistic. until tesla finds significant backing they're just going to keep playing the desperate cash pump game im all for it tbh, its hella funny