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Are you worried he's making your browser Catholic? I've met him, he's a great guy. Just because you might disagree with his political views doesn't mean you sho

Are you worried he's making your browser Catholic? I've met him, he's a great guy. Just because you might disagree with his political views doesn't mean you should choose your browser based on that difference.

biocomputation 7y ago
Not sure how to respond to this. For many gay and lesbian men and women (including myself) Brendan Eich's donation to support Prop 8 was a very clear message. I'm perfectly happy to choose a browser that isn't developed by a man who thinks I shouldn't have the same right to marry as he does. I said a few years ago that Brave wasn't going anywhere, and it isn't. It's not because Brendan Eich donated to Prop 8 either. The vast majority of the large, liquid market of browser users simply don't care about privacy.
techntoke 7y ago
No, I'm worried about the guy whose language has been horribly implemented into ever major browser and allows sites to do just about anything on my computer and gives away all kind of telemetry data without my permission. Sacrificing users' privacy has become the norm due to JavaScript, and I believe it was created primarily for that purpose.
- gridlockd 7y ago
  > ... allows sites to do just about anything on my computer You don't seem to understand how Javascript actually works. It can do just about nothing on your computer. It can't read any data off disk (that the site itself didn't create). It can't read data from other websites, unless the website operator enabled that (in which case it could read that data with just URLs, no scripting required). It can't write data anywhere except into specific storage files. Besides HTTP requests, it can't access any other process, service or resource without asking you for permissions. Telemetry is something that can be done without Javascript. I can just make any link you activate have some sort of unique ID. Maybe Javascript can make it a bit more detailed, but fundamentally nothing changes.

biocomputation 7y ago

Not sure how to respond to this. For many gay and lesbian men and women (including myself) Brendan Eich's donation to support Prop 8 was a very clear message. I'm perfectly happy to choose a browser that isn't developed by a man who thinks I shouldn't have the same right to marry as he does. I said a few years ago that Brave wasn't going anywhere, and it isn't. It's not because Brendan Eich donated to Prop 8 either. The vast majority of the large, liquid market of browser users simply don't care about privacy.

techntoke 7y ago

No, I'm worried about the guy whose language has been horribly implemented into ever major browser and allows sites to do just about anything on my computer and gives away all kind of telemetry data without my permission. Sacrificing users' privacy has become the norm due to JavaScript, and I believe it was created primarily for that purpose.

gridlockd 7y ago
> ... allows sites to do just about anything on my computer You don't seem to understand how Javascript actually works. It can do just about nothing on your computer. It can't read any data off disk (that the site itself didn't create). It can't read data from other websites, unless the website operator enabled that (in which case it could read that data with just URLs, no scripting required). It can't write data anywhere except into specific storage files. Besides HTTP requests, it can't access any other process, service or resource without asking you for permissions. Telemetry is something that can be done without Javascript. I can just make any link you activate have some sort of unique ID. Maybe Javascript can make it a bit more detailed, but fundamentally nothing changes.