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I'd love a good new Macbook Pro I want to buy. Or even a good Mac Pro to start with. I get it, Apple is in their Ballmer era, making tons of money so no one i

by ProAm 8y ago

I'd love a good new Macbook Pro I want to buy. Or even a good Mac Pro to start with. I get it, Apple is in their Ballmer era, making tons of money so no one is allowed to argue. But it doesn't 'just work' anymore. They've fallen from grace, which admittedly is hard because they were so good its hard to always move upward. But they are in stagnation and a little embarrassment now. Tell me these keyboards are awesome? The touchbar useful. The battery life in exchange for thinness amazing.

scarface74 8y ago
Even if they did come up with a new Macbook Pro or MacPro that wouldn't qualify as "innovation" and definitely wouldn't answer the question: Exactly what area should they invest in that could make even a 10% difference in their revenue? What technology do you see in the foreseeable future that will be even a fifth of the size of the phone market?
- ProAm 8y ago
  This is why Cook needs to go. I can't answer that question for them, and neither can he. Do you really think the future of Apple is subscription services? Thrilling.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    The phone market has 66% worldwide penetration. It was clear years before the first iPhone came out that the mobile phone was going to be ubiquitous. As early as 2003-2004, many middle class middle school and high school kids had cell phones. If it were that easy to find the next electronic device that would have 66% world wide penetration who do you propose is the person to find it? People were clamoring for an iPod + phone for years before the iPhone came out. What electronic device are people clamoring for now?
    - ProAm 8y ago
      > If it were that easy to find the next electronic device that would have 66% world wide penetration who do you propose is the person to find it? Of course its not easy, but I would hope that the CEO of one of the most valuable companies on earth would have that kind of foresight and skill. That's what he is there for, or to hire people that can do that. They're not and that's my point. Time for some significant changes at the helm. > People were clamoring for an iPod + phone for years before the iPhone came out. What electronic device are people clamoring for now? These devices were already out before the iPhone, the iPhone was just more polished, and the ability to buy from iTunes was huge. This is where Jobs deserves his credit, not for inventing a device that was a phone, camera and music player in one, but for making it a good experience. These new MBP's are a horrible experience.
      - scarface74 8y ago
        I’m not dismissing the faults of the MacBook. But who would replace Tim Cook that could come up with the next big thing? Some low level employee that no one ever heard of or would it be the CEO or VP of another consumer electronics company who also hasn’t come up with the next big thing for their company?

by ProAm 8y ago

scarface74 8y ago

Even if they did come up with a new Macbook Pro or MacPro that wouldn't qualify as "innovation" and definitely wouldn't answer the question: Exactly what area should they invest in that could make even a 10% difference in their revenue? What technology do you see in the foreseeable future that will be even a fifth of the size of the phone market?

ProAm 8y ago
This is why Cook needs to go. I can't answer that question for them, and neither can he. Do you really think the future of Apple is subscription services? Thrilling.
- scarface74 8y ago
  The phone market has 66% worldwide penetration. It was clear years before the first iPhone came out that the mobile phone was going to be ubiquitous. As early as 2003-2004, many middle class middle school and high school kids had cell phones. If it were that easy to find the next electronic device that would have 66% world wide penetration who do you propose is the person to find it? People were clamoring for an iPod + phone for years before the iPhone came out. What electronic device are people clamoring for now?
  - ProAm 8y ago
    > If it were that easy to find the next electronic device that would have 66% world wide penetration who do you propose is the person to find it? Of course its not easy, but I would hope that the CEO of one of the most valuable companies on earth would have that kind of foresight and skill. That's what he is there for, or to hire people that can do that. They're not and that's my point. Time for some significant changes at the helm. > People were clamoring for an iPod + phone for years before the iPhone came out. What electronic device are people clamoring for now? These devices were already out before the iPhone, the iPhone was just more polished, and the ability to buy from iTunes was huge. This is where Jobs deserves his credit, not for inventing a device that was a phone, camera and music player in one, but for making it a good experience. These new MBP's are a horrible experience.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      I’m not dismissing the faults of the MacBook. But who would replace Tim Cook that could come up with the next big thing? Some low level employee that no one ever heard of or would it be the CEO or VP of another consumer electronics company who also hasn’t come up with the next big thing for their company?